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The AI dooooooom thread

Started by Hamilcar, April 06, 2023, 12:44:43 PM

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garbon

"We're just building"

Building crap.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

viper37

Quote from: HVC on January 31, 2026, 08:51:01 PM
Quote from: viper37 on January 31, 2026, 08:19:58 PM
Quote from: Valmy on January 31, 2026, 07:44:01 PMWhy would somebody make this? Humans already have enough weird reddits. We don't need to spend billions to make artificial ones.
I'm not sure if the AI agents didn't sort of, created this themselves, while researchers wanted to observe their behavior.

They decided to emulate humans.

There is one interesting convo about the use of memory, comparing their stored memories to human memory and how to access them faster, debating pros and cons.

It's fascinating, I could almost think it's humans discussing on Reddit.


It is humans discussing on Reddit. AI uses Reddit to learn. It's regurgitating what it's learned.
Well, duh, captain obvious :P

Some of it reads like a relationship advice column from an 80s newspapers.

It's still fascinating to see AI chatbots doing this.


So many millions years of evolution, poetry, litterature, Lady Chatterly, Jane Austen, Harlequin novels, internet blogs and short romantic stories, and in juste a couple of years, baby chatbots can do it just as good.  I am floored. :P
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

viper37

I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

The Minsky Moment

Just goes to show.  You can try to make AIs more intelligent.  Or you can try to make the seem more like humans.  But you can't do both.
We have, accordingly, always had plenty of excellent lawyers, though we often had to do without even tolerable administrators, and seen destined to endure the inconvenience of hereafter doing without any constructive statesmen at all.
--Woodrow Wilson

Sheilbh

QuoteSiddhartha Mahanta
@sidhubaba
jaw dropped at the sight of this picture in the excellent WaPo Anthropic story from the other day:

" ... a book warehouse that was alleged to play a role in Anthropic's Project Panama, its project to scan, digitize and destroy millions of books"
Let's bomb Russia!

Crazy_Ivan80

at some point they'll start asking if they've got souls.

Damn, the Quarians could flee offworld. We're stuck with Elon and Bezos' "Buy 'N Large"

Jacob

What's the "destroy" part about?

That those specific volumes would be destroyed after they're scanned, or something more wide ranging?

Sheilbh

Quote from: Jacob on February 02, 2026, 05:03:19 PMWhat's the "destroy" part about?

That those specific volumes would be destroyed after they're scanned, or something more wide ranging?
Yes. They spent millions acquiring physical texts, removing the binding to scan more easily to digital files. So the scanning itself was the destruction.
Let's bomb Russia!

grumbler

Quote from: Jacob on February 02, 2026, 05:03:19 PMWhat's the "destroy" part about?

That those specific volumes would be destroyed after they're scanned, or something more wide ranging?

I am sure that it is cheaper to just destroy them/give them away than to try to sell used books.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Tonitrus

It only took about 40 years for Egon to be right.


Jacob

Quote from: Sheilbh on February 02, 2026, 05:05:53 PMYes. They spent millions acquiring physical texts, removing the binding to scan more easily to digital files. So the scanning itself was the destruction.

Ah okay.

In that case, I'm completely unconcerned about the "destroy" part (even if I do have slight inclinations towards treating books as sacral objects). Physical books get destroyed all the time.

It's more the "hey we're ingesting your work without permission in order to undermine your ability to do work in the future" part I find shitty, but that's an ongoing debate.

Sheilbh

Yeah I broadly agree - but I think it's a striking image of the scale.

And an image above all of vast amounts of human labour (and often creativity and love) without, as you say, permission, compensation or even notice.
Let's bomb Russia!