Property prices thread

[Jacob]

You know the size of those countries may have something to do with how you can commute from train from just about anywhere...

It's a bit of a cop-out, to be honest. Yes, we're not going to have convenient mass transportation covering every square inch of our low population density areas in Canada (or the US).

But North America is still doing a pretty crap job with mass transit in our high and medium density areas. The reason we don't have good mass transit in our medium sized cities, or linking the suburbs to city cores, or linking fairly close urban centres has little to do with the size of the country.

[Josquius]

The Nirvana Fallacy is creeping in here.
Of course some guy living up in a remote corner of the Yukon isn't going to have local bus service. He is going to need personal transport.
But that doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to provide this in more inhabited areas.

[garbon]

The Nirvana Fallacy is creeping in here.
Of course some guy living up in a remote corner of the Yukon isn't going to have local bus service. He is going to need personal transport.
But that doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to provide this in more inhabited areas.

But that's little like your ideal and doesn't really need to be motivated by appeals to a goal unable to be reached any time soon.

I think is a perfect example of taking something reasonable that we pretty much all agree on (having mass transit that would make it easier to get around in short distances) and then putting in a statement (cars are terrible/need to be done away with) that then drives people apart.  It doesn't help when you then claim people are focusing too much on the ideal when you are positing your ideal scenario.

[Tonitrus]

In the OTT, Tamas mentioned the slums one must live in in the London area at around £450k.

Saw this in the local area market today...   

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/77294611#/

And it appears to have a proper garage.

[Sheilbh]

Though I am always suspicious of converted churches. I always feel like the proportions end up being a bit weird and you often end up having to split windows in half so you have a floor window - plus they feel far more likely to be haunted.

[Grey Fox]

I wonder what the heating cost look like.

Is Freehold the good tenure set up?

[Tonitrus]

The other thing I've noticed in high-end upgrades around here in the country, are giant doors (in either the kitchen or living room/lounge area), that open up straight to the outdoors, such as in this place...

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/79740390#/

[Sheilbh]

Is Freehold the good tenure set up?

Yep.

On the giant doors - you're right that's a big trend here (though just an expansion of French doors? ) I'm a big fan, if only I could afford a high end flat/house. Especially because from, say May to September you'd probably eat outside and that's where you'd entertain anyway.

[PDH]

Is Freehold the good tenure set up?

Yep.

On the giant doors - you're right that's a big trend here (though just an expansion of French doors? ) I'm a big fan, if only I could afford a high end flat/house. Especially because from, say May to September you'd probably eat outside and that's where you'd entertain anyway.

But then wouldn't you want an open kitchen?

[Sheilbh]

To the outdoors.

And I don't hate open plan - I just think as a trend it's over.

Also I clicked through and I don't like that house

[PDH]

Man, these esoteric English cultural rules are taxing.

[Admiral Yi]

Are garage door openers a thing in You Kay?  I'm guessing not.

[mongers]

Are garage door openers a thing in You Kay?  I'm guessing not.

Those do exist and are advertised, however I can offer no data on the takeup or numbers installed. 

[Josquius]

The Nirvana Fallacy is creeping in here.
Of course some guy living up in a remote corner of the Yukon isn't going to have local bus service. He is going to need personal transport.
But that doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to provide this in more inhabited areas.

But that's little like your ideal and doesn't really need to be motivated by appeals to a goal unable to be reached any time soon.

I think is a perfect example of taking something reasonable that we pretty much all agree on (having mass transit that would make it easier to get around in short distances) and then putting in a statement (cars are terrible/need to be done away with) that then drives people apart.  It doesn't help when you then claim people are focusing too much on the ideal when you are positing your ideal scenario.

Well yeah, if you're a politician you wouldn't say "Death to cars!", but we're just folk who know each other idly chatting here.
Its a bit pointless to argue against something that is obviously an extreme dream-scenario by presenting the extreme reasons why the ideal wouldn't work and ignoring the actual realistic steps before this utopian future.

[Sheilbh]

Well yeah, if you're a politician you wouldn't say "Death to cars!", but we're just folk who know each other idly chatting here.
Its a bit pointless to argue against something that is obviously an extreme dream-scenario by presenting the extreme reasons why the ideal wouldn't work and ignoring the actual realistic steps before this utopian future.

Yeah exactly I'm not trying to build support for my end goal incremental policy by incremental policy.

I'm saying what I'd like to see in an ideal, some ideas on how we start to guess there, plus my theory that energy transition is going to be enormous and I think we will end up going in that direction.

Edit: And for all of Toni's links - £450k in my area would get you up to a 3 bedroom flat.