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Suez Canal blocked by grounded megaship

Started by The Larch, March 24, 2021, 07:03:47 AM

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Iormlund

 
Quote from: The Larch on March 26, 2021, 05:13:57 PM
The guy can't catch a break, he's in the middle of every logistical nightmare on the globe.


:lol:

Josquius

Never ceases to amaze how costs will be cut so tight in stuff like number of crew and wages to save a few thousand on multi million balance sheets.
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Sheilbh

Ah the Sport's sex arse beat - Fleet Street's finest :lol:
Let's bomb Russia!

grumbler

Quote from: Tyr on March 26, 2021, 05:26:05 PM
Never ceases to amaze how costs will be cut so tight in stuff like number of crew and wages to save a few thousand on multi million balance sheets.

There could have been 100 crewmen on board and the result would have been the same.

The pilot fucked up.  He was going too fast if the ship couldn't recover from a gust of wind before going heavily aground.  If there was a sandstorm, as reported, then he fucked up even worse, because every mariner knows that you cannot go faster in limited visibility than a speed that will allow you to stop before hitting something that has just come within the range of your visibility. 

It is especially critical to be forehanded when you have a ship with that kind of momentum.
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Bayraktar!

Jacob

I would not be surprised if it emerges that the pilots are under significant pressure to not go too slow, to keep the flow of ships (and transit fees) going at an acceptable pace. This, of course, would not obviate the responsibility of the pilot in question for going too fast. But I wouldn't be too surprised if this becomes a case study in misaligned incentives and risk management.

Maladict

Quote from: Jacob on March 27, 2021, 10:51:24 AM
I would not be surprised if it emerges that the pilots are under significant pressure to not go too slow, to keep the flow of ships (and transit fees) going at an acceptable pace. This, of course, would not obviate the responsibility of the pilot in question for going too fast. But I wouldn't be too surprised if this becomes a case study in misaligned incentives and risk management.

From what I'm reading the pilots tend to not be under pressure to do anything but help themselves to free food.
There also is a speed limit of about 8 knots, to protect the embankments from erosion. So if they were going too fast it would be interesting to find out who ordered it.

PDH

Quote from: Maladict on March 27, 2021, 02:40:10 PM
From what I'm reading the pilots tend to not be under pressure to do anything but help themselves to free food.
There also is a speed limit of about 8 knots, to protect the embankments from erosion. So if they were going too fast it would be interesting to find out who ordered it.
As long as they remember to say "It's my first day" they will be okay.
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Quote from: PDH on March 27, 2021, 06:44:00 PM
Quote from: Maladict on March 27, 2021, 02:40:10 PM
From what I'm reading the pilots tend to not be under pressure to do anything but help themselves to free food.
There also is a speed limit of about 8 knots, to protect the embankments from erosion. So if they were going too fast it would be interesting to find out who ordered it.
As long as they remember to say "It's my first day" they will be okay.

Incorrect, if they say anything other than "union rep" or "attorney" they are goners.
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on March 27, 2021, 08:29:08 PM
Quote from: PDH on March 27, 2021, 06:44:00 PM
Quote from: Maladict on March 27, 2021, 02:40:10 PM
From what I'm reading the pilots tend to not be under pressure to do anything but help themselves to free food.
There also is a speed limit of about 8 knots, to protect the embankments from erosion. So if they were going too fast it would be interesting to find out who ordered it.
As long as they remember to say "It's my first day" they will be okay.

Incorrect, if they say anything other than "union rep" or "attorney" they are goners.
Egypt, a known respecter of unions and attorneys.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

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Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
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grumbler

I'd not at all be surprised to learn that the Suez Canal pilots are all the brothers-in-law or nephews of the country's leaders.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Solmyr


Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017


KRonn

I'm seeing more reports that costs of goods and shortages are likely to occur due to the backup of hundreds of ships delayed going through the Canal or being diverted around the Cape of Good Hope.

Admiral Yi

Fortunately for me I'm not buying anything right now. :)