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Started by Syt, January 09, 2021, 07:46:24 AM

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garbon

Quote from: HVC on September 13, 2025, 05:54:30 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 13, 2025, 03:57:43 AMI also learned that Laura Loomer has been deleting her tweets as she had until recently been very critical of Charlie Kirk.

I read a few people have been fired already. What happened to "why can't people take a joke" the right loves to say.

It isn't cancel culture when they do it. Just basic decency.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

Quote from: Josquius on September 13, 2025, 06:37:53 AM
QuoteI read a few people have been fired already. What happened to "why can't people take a joke" the right loves to say.

I'm seeing this one about a lot.
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I've no idea how I'm supposed to understand that.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

HVC

Far lefties are smarter then normal lefties?
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Sheilbh

Saw the Yankees do a minutes silence which seems a bit weird, no?

Sad that he was killed, especially for his young family and wrong and bad for society. But some of this stuff seems a bit Dianafied and hysterical.
Let's bomb Russia!

garbon

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 13, 2025, 07:41:20 AMSaw the Yankees do a minutes silence which seems a bit weird, no?

Sad that he was killed, especially for his young family and wrong and bad for society. But some of this stuff seems a bit Dianafied and hysterical.

It is a psychodrama
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

HVC

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 13, 2025, 07:41:20 AMSaw the Yankees do a minutes silence which seems a bit weird, no?

Sad that he was killed, especially for his young family and wrong and bad for society. But some of this stuff seems a bit Dianafied and hysterical.

It's weird. Looking him up after he died (some of his comments are humoursly morbid when read after the fact) he appeared to be just your run of the mill racist gun nut right wing agitator. Even his college tours are just him making cheap points against dumb kids. When he faces actual competition he gets plastered. My favorite involved a dolphin fetus, but that might have been the edit. No idea how he became the voice of the young right or why he deserves this posthumous reverence.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 13, 2025, 07:41:20 AMSaw the Yankees do a minutes silence which seems a bit weird, no?

Sad that he was killed, especially for his young family and wrong and bad for society. But some of this stuff seems a bit Dianafied and hysterical.

bizarre

Oexmelin

A lot of university campuses had their flags at half mast.

University campuses. For the guy who set up the "Professors' Watchlist".

Your institutions are peopled with cowardly, craven, complacent individuals. Or people who are simply corrupt, ambitious, or content with authoritarianism. It's your job to strengthen the resolve of the first, or get the second out of your institutions. Don't wait for elections. Don't wait for institutional wheels to save you. Don't wait for the courts. Don't wait for mythical new leaders to emerge magically.
Que le grand cric me croque !

grumbler

I see a lot of flags at half-mast here in rural Virginia.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

Bayraktar!

Oexmelin

I am sure. The right has found a martyr. The initial stories about the murderer being a guy from the left will stick, because it's too convenient this way. Don't be cowed into silence by this.
Que le grand cric me croque !

Razgovory

What actual evidence do we have the killer was Groyper?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

Quote from: Oexmelin on September 13, 2025, 09:12:51 AMA lot of university campuses had their flags at half mast.

University campuses. For the guy who set up the "Professors' Watchlist".

Your institutions are peopled with cowardly, craven, complacent individuals. Or people who are simply corrupt, ambitious, or content with authoritarianism. It's your job to strengthen the resolve of the first, or get the second out of your institutions. Don't wait for elections. Don't wait for institutional wheels to save you. Don't wait for the courts. Don't wait for mythical new leaders to emerge magically.

Of course, they don't want to be cancelled.  The institutions that were frightened of being canceled by the left are now frightened by the right.   You didn't really think they was on your side, did you? 
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Jacob

Quote from: grumbler on September 13, 2025, 09:12:56 AMI see a lot of flags at half-mast here in rural Virginia.

Soon there'll be reports of miracles happening.

Josquius

Quote from: HVC on September 13, 2025, 07:09:59 AMFar lefties are smarter then normal lefties?

Depends how much you agree with their assessment that "free speech" is controlled by the far right and you really need to protect yourself online.
It's hyperbole but I can get the point.
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Jacob

Quote from: Oexmelin on September 13, 2025, 09:12:51 AMA lot of university campuses had their flags at half mast.

University campuses. For the guy who set up the "Professors' Watchlist".

Your institutions are peopled with cowardly, craven, complacent individuals. Or people who are simply corrupt, ambitious, or content with authoritarianism. It's your job to strengthen the resolve of the first, or get the second out of your institutions. Don't wait for elections. Don't wait for institutional wheels to save you. Don't wait for the courts. Don't wait for mythical new leaders to emerge magically.

It certainly seems like the odds of some heroes sweeping in and fixing everything, or of institutions and norms reasserting themselves on their to save the day are low.

The reactionary right has spent decades building ideological infrastructure and investing in throwing sand in the gears of liberal democracy - making it harder for its institutions to operate.  I think your message is correct - the best way to resist is to do the same. Put effort into making it tedious and more challenging for the reactionary right to exert its power where you can. Build up and support spaces where liberal values and participatory democracy can flourish, even if its on a small scale.

This looks like it's going to be a long haul, but we still have choices to make and agency.