Quo Vadis GOP?

[Zoupa]

Considering the gun culture, ranges etc, I'd assume there are millions of Americans who would qualify as non-amateurs.

[crazy canuck]

Oh no

[Jacob]

I'm assuming the shooter is not trans? Otherwise we would've heard about it by now.

[DGuller]

Did they actually arrest the shooter?  The first guy arrested wasn't the shooter.  Did they arrest the second guy who was, or is it still confusion from the original reporting?

[crazy canuck]

Did they actually arrest the shooter?  The first guy arrested wasn't the shooter.  Did they arrest the second guy who was, or is it still confusion from the original reporting?

The FBI is saying the shooter is in custody.

In the before times, we could put some faith in that statement...

[Sophie Scholl]

Conservatives: "We're in a Culture War! We want everyone to have guns with no restrictions! We want to continually escalate things! We want to deprive our victims of any hope. We want blood! Our enemies are inhuman and evil!"

The shooter: "Bet."

[Valmy]

Did they actually arrest the shooter?  The first guy arrested wasn't the shooter.  Did they arrest the second guy who was, or is it still confusion from the original reporting?

The FBI is saying the shooter is in custody.

In the before times, we could put some faith in that statement...

The FBI, or more specifically the FBI director, doesn't know what they are talking about. The killer is still at large.

Remember what CdM said FBI stands for? Famous But Incompetent. Even more so today.

[Sophie Scholl]

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[Razgovory]

I'm assuming the shooter is not trans? Otherwise we would've heard about it by now.

Eh... Not quite.  Someone who making threats to Charlie Kirk, and promising that something big would happen tomorrow was Trans.  Then that person posted they didn't do it before the account went down.  Name was NajraGalvz omar

I don't know if that person was the shooter or what, just what is blowing up on the net.

[Sophie Scholl]

Maybe it was a cishet white guy with a history of mental illness.

[HVC]

At least he got to die as he lived, embracing gun violence for a better cause. Or in his own words

"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights"

[grumbler]

Tonight we drink, because a fascist has been killed!

   I get the impression that you wouldn't know a real fascist if you ever saw one. "Fascist" as a trendy word for "I don't like him" is still moronic.

Kirk was an ideologue promoting reactionary principals, but real fascists are scary people, not pathetic people.

[DGuller]

At least he got to die as he lived, embracing gun violence for a better cause. Or in his own words

"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights"

Say what you will, but that's much more intellectual honesty than we usually get from the "every year 2 million murders get prevented by armed homeowners" crowd.  And trading mortality risk for freedom is not exactly a controversial take in other contexts.

[HVC]

At least he got to die as he lived, embracing gun violence for a better cause. Or in his own words

"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights"

Say what you will, but that's much more intellectual honesty than we usually get from the "every year 2 million murders get prevented by armed homeowners" crowd.  And trading mortality risk for freedom is not exactly a controversial take in other contexts.

Agreed that it's more honest, but it wholly ignores all the other countries without the guns and attached violence but with the same freedoms.

[DGuller]

At least he got to die as he lived, embracing gun violence for a better cause. Or in his own words

"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights"

Say what you will, but that's much more intellectual honesty than we usually get from the "every year 2 million murders get prevented by armed homeowners" crowd.  And trading mortality risk for freedom is not exactly a controversial take in other contexts.

Agreed that it's more honest, but it wholly ignores all the other countries with the guns and attached violence with the same freedoms.

The "freedom" being discussed is really insurance.  You can have freedom, but if populace has no means of defending it, then it is more brittle than the freedom that has armed population behind it.  I don't know if I personally buy it myself, but it's an argument that deserves a nuanced discussion.