Quo Vadis GOP?

[Habbaku]

I love that Legbiter is now denying he chumped for Trump.

[Admiral Yi]

Hey, it's your country dude. By all means, I am sure a strongly worded letter to your representative about how your are not a crazy leftist is going to make a change.

Do you really want to get into a pissing contest about results?

[Legbiter]

I love that Legbiter is now denying he chumped for Trump.

Yeah, it all comes down to Hillary dosen't it? 

[Razgovory]

Mental health recovery is often slow and relapses are common.

[Oexmelin]

Do you really want to get into a pissing contest about results?

What results? What pissing contest?

I am reminding people to *get directly involved*. Whether or not you think that for your county, it's to work tirelessly to take back the Republican party from crazies and push it back towards your favorite brand of Shrine to The Market, or whether it is to reluctantly join force with Crazy Woke Pronoun Leftists - is something only you can adequately judge, and I do not care at all - I only care about which option is the more appropriate to fight the danger you are in.

The apathy I am seeing, the wishful thinking I am seeing that at some point the magic unicorn candidate that will be all I desire, or the aimless hope that somehow the next election will fix things, doesn't seem to address *at all* the danger you are all in. Writing a strongly worded letter ain't gonna cut it. And if joining Crazy Woke Leftist isn't either - you all should be spending way more energy than you collectively seem to be spending, to find a cure. And not in a "it's an amusing thought experiment" way. I mean in an actual, political involvement way.

Now, if it's because you think I am wrong about political involvement, and that it's much better to just wait it out - you do you. I just think it's a hell of a wager to make, and I am not a betting man. 

[Admiral Yi]

What results? What pissing contest?

The results of our respective styles of involvement.

Your mockery of my email to Grassley sounded like a challenge.

[alfred russel]

Isn't that the advice you gave us Yank posters when your guy Trump got elected?  Don't get your panties in a bunch, etc.

How did that turn out? 

It didn't turn out so bad. Life went on.

That isn't defending Trump: he was a shit president, corrupt, and displayed the maturity of a child.

[DGuller]

Except for some of those 600,000 people.

[alfred russel]

Except for some of those 600,000 people.

Trump didn't kill 600k people. The death rate in the us is within the range of other developed western countries, if at the higher end of the range.

[Berkut]

Except for some of those 600,000 people.

Trump didn't kill 600k people. The death rate in the us is within the range of other developed western countries, if at the higher end of the range.

It's true. It was not just Trump.

[DGuller]

That's why I said some of those 600,000 people.  Obviously many would die anyway, but I have a hard time believing that obvious buffoonery and politicizing did not exacerbate the death toll significantly.

[Eddie Teach]

Trump was shit, but most of the covid management wasn't done at the federal level.

[Admiral Yi]

Trump was shit, but most of the covid management wasn't done at the federal level.

Sure, but then you have to ask how Republican governors and Trumptards would have acted if he had been sane.  Would anti-masking have become a culture war issue if not for Trump?

[Eddie Teach]

Hard to say. I don't think Trump is the primary driver of culture war craziness though.

[Razgovory]

Hard to say. I don't think Trump is the primary driver of culture war craziness though.

With masks he certainly was the primary driver.  The whole concept of anti-lockdown protests and anti-mask rallies is so absurd it's hard to imagine that people would consider it if Trump had not endorsed this bullshit.  I suspect that he influenced the anti-lockdown protests in other countries.  The man is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths.