What does a BIDEN Presidency look like?

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Habbaku

#2205
August 23, 2021, 07:00:55 AM
I wouldn't take this guy's ratings very seriously. He rates Jackson near the top and Buchanan as anything but the worst.
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Sheilbh

#2206
August 23, 2021, 07:19:47 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on August 23, 2021, 01:51:28 AM
Isn't there a consensus that Grant was out of his depth as President?  :hmm:
Yeah I think there's been a bit of revisionism around Grant as views on reconstruction have shifted, but I could be wrong.
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DGuller

#2207
August 23, 2021, 12:27:42 PM
I stumbled across Jean Guerrero and Latinx brouhaha on Twitter today, and if you need to encapsulate the problem with why the left sucks at politics in two tweets, she did an excellent job.

Jean Guerrero:  "Democratic outreach to Latinxs is not working, none of them know what's going on."
Latinx Twitter users: "Maybe you're not reaching us because you're calling us Latinx."
Jean Guerrero: "LOL, look at all this right wing freakout about me using the word Latinx."

The Brain

#2208
August 23, 2021, 12:42:44 PM
Quote from: DGuller on August 23, 2021, 12:27:42 PM
I stumbled across Jean Guerrero and Latinx brouhaha on Twitter today, and if you need to encapsulate the problem with why the left sucks at politics in two tweets, she did an excellent job.

Jean Guerrero:  "Democratic outreach to Latinxs is not working, none of them know what's going on."
Latinx Twitter users: "Maybe you're not reaching us because you're calling us Latinx."
Jean Guerrero: "LOL, look at all this right wing freakout about me using the word Latinx."

I checked it out. Heh.
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Valmy

#2209
August 23, 2021, 12:51:32 PM
Culture War > policies to actually help people. Yes I know this.
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

The Minsky Moment

#2210
August 23, 2021, 01:08:03 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on August 23, 2021, 01:51:28 AM
Isn't there a consensus that Grant was out of his depth as President?  :hmm:

There is some truth to that but given who he succeeded and what came after, Grant doesn't look too shabby overall.  And Greeley was a ridiculous Presidential candidate.
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DGuller

#2211
August 23, 2021, 01:41:44 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 23, 2021, 12:51:32 PM
Culture War > policies to actually help people. Yes I know this.
It's more basic than that.  Yes, logically speaking, the Democrats could go "Just vote for us, for fuck's sake, what the fuck is wrong with you?", and if the voters were logical, the Democrats would still win everything in a landslide.  However, people are the way they are, and when you go "Hmm, your language is not sufficiently inclusive, let me fix that for you", they may understandably feel a bit patronized.

HVC

#2212
August 23, 2021, 02:36:20 PM
People from latin america are by and large religious and conservative. if the GOP wasn't so racist they'd rake in the first and 2nd generation vote.
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Valmy

#2213
August 23, 2021, 02:50:43 PM
Quote from: DGuller on August 23, 2021, 01:41:44 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 23, 2021, 12:51:32 PM
Culture War > policies to actually help people. Yes I know this.
It's more basic than that.  Yes, logically speaking, the Democrats could go "Just vote for us, for fuck's sake, what the fuck is wrong with you?", and if the voters were logical, the Democrats would still win everything in a landslide.  However, people are the way they are, and when you go "Hmm, your language is not sufficiently inclusive, let me fix that for you", they may understandably feel a bit patronized.

Exactly. We need to fix Spanish because it is too sexist. This is a very important cultural victory we must win that clearly is more important than securing health care and good paying jobs and sane immigration policies.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

The Larch

#2214
August 23, 2021, 05:29:14 PM
I think you're wildly overstating the importance and influence of that kind of activism.

Razgovory

#2215
August 23, 2021, 09:15:08 PM
Quote from: HVC on August 23, 2021, 02:36:20 PM
People from latin america are by and large religious and conservative. if the GOP wasn't so racist they'd rake in the first and 2nd generation vote.

The party leadership wanted to do that.  The Republicans in Texas made big gains with an outreach program.  The rank and file rose up against Bush's "Pathway to Citizenship"  What a fucking waste.

I have a prediction:  Republicans won't become more tolerant, they will just start considering Latinos white.  Like they did with Italians.
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alfred russel

#2216
August 23, 2021, 09:48:15 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on August 23, 2021, 09:15:08 PM
Quote from: HVC on August 23, 2021, 02:36:20 PM
People from latin america are by and large religious and conservative. if the GOP wasn't so racist they'd rake in the first and 2nd generation vote.

The party leadership wanted to do that.  The Republicans in Texas made big gains with an outreach program.  The rank and file rose up against Bush's "Pathway to Citizenship"  What a fucking waste.

I have a prediction:  Republicans won't become more tolerant, they will just start considering Latinos white.  Like they did with Italians.

It makes sense. Lots of latinos consider themselves white. Your super old school first families of the united states that can trace their lineage to the early 1600s in the US are some mixture of european and native american, which is the same as latinos.
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garbon

#2217
August 24, 2021, 12:56:04 AM
Quote from: The Larch on August 23, 2021, 05:29:14 PM
I think you're wildly overstating the importance and influence of that kind of activism.

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Berkut

#2218
August 24, 2021, 07:40:13 AM
75 million people disagree with your assessment of how important "that kind of activism" is - and kind of by definition, that makes your assessment pretty clearly incorrect.
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grumbler

#2219
August 24, 2021, 07:48:12 AM
Quote from: Berkut on August 24, 2021, 07:40:13 AM
75 million people disagree with your assessment of how important "that kind of activism" is - and kind of by definition, that makes your assessment pretty clearly incorrect.

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