What does a BIDEN Presidency look like?

[crazy canuck]

It's using human beings as props for political stunts. It requires a special kind of depravity.

Can we at least have general agreement that any politician engaging in or supporting this is no longer permitted to prattle on about "Christian values"?

Have you read the Old Testament parts of the Bible recently? 

 

[CountDeMoney]

It's using human beings as props for political stunts. It requires a special kind of depravity.

Can't use "depravity" and the like, it only compliments them. That's what they're aiming for.
The more horrified and shocked you are, the more they giggle. That's the point.

[HisMajestyBOB]

I'm assuming their Plan B will be to try sending them to Madagascar. Hopefully they'll all be out of office before we get to the final plan.

[The Minsky Moment]

Can't use "depravity" and the like, it only compliments them. That's what they're aiming for.

I don't really care what sick fetish gets them off.  I'm long past having my conduct being regulated by catering to their psychosis.

[Berkut]

Can't use "depravity" and the like, it only compliments them. That's what they're aiming for.

I don't really care what sick fetish gets them off.  I'm long past having my conduct being regulated by catering to their psychosis.

Well sure, its a sick fetish, but you know..."they kind of have a point here". :barf:

[Barrister]

This is fucking grotesque in its straight up racism and utterly false bullshit.

THey are not illegal immigrants. NYC and DC both have massive immigrant populations. Neither of them are "loudly complaining".  They are saying "Hey, maybe you could let us know ahead of time so we can actually make some plans to take care of these people you are using as GOP mouthbreather stroke toys". Texas is not "struggling to cope", they are dealing with a problem that has been ongoing for decades, and they have massive resources dedicated to dealing with that problem from both the state AND the federal government.

Stop watching Fox News. My god.

Forgive me for having a nuanced opinion and not just "GOP=EV0L".

Yes, as I understand it these migrants are not "illegal", but rather they have applied for asylum and granted release until their claim is adjudicated.  As I understand it most claims are ultimately rejected but the process takes time.

The basic point is that these migrants disproportionately affect border states like Texas.  So to the extent that Abbott or De Santis have a point it's to call attention to this fact, and that it's easy to be soft on the issues of migration when you live in regions not really affected by it.

But I thought I was pretty clear that they way they were doing it was absolutely cruel.  It's 100% a political stunt.  De Santis spending $12 million to fly those people to Martha's Vinyard was grotesque.

You could set up a justifiable system to help migrants move to other locations in the US, but what they're doing isn't it.

And while I've seen clips on Youtube (usually pointing out the ridiculous things Tucker Carlson is saying) I don't think I've ever sat down to watch Fox News.  I thought it wasn't even available in Canada, but googling suggests you can find it on some satellite systems.  I don't have a satellite system, and haven't for 16 years.

[Jacob]

If that's the basic point then they should make that basic point instead of spewing the intellectually dishonest evil bullshit they're spewing.

[Barrister]

I'm seeing allegations that not only did the people lie to those migrants in order to induce them to get on the bus or plane, and that they did not inform anyone that the migrants were coming (we knew this part)...

but that they told the migrants to report their new address to the wrong agency, and listed their home address as being at random homeless shelters across the country.  That would mean they needed to report to the nearest ICE (or whatever agency) office to those random addresses or they would be removed from the country for violating the terms of their release.

[OttoVonBismarck]

Someone here on a notice to appear for an asylum claim won't be deported over an address inaccuracy, but without seeing specific claims I could not say more.

FWIW asylum seekers do not actually affect Texas that disproportionately vs other States, illegal immigrants do--as I mentioned some time ago when I broke down the different numbers of each that cross over, a large % of illegal migrants are going to known jobs in Texas, California, Arizona and they sometimes or often times have communities they meld into.

Texas does resettle a high number of refugees, but remember it is the 2nd largest state by population. New York also settles a large number, as does Michigan, California, and Florida. Most of the larger states seem to pull their weight on resettlement. New Jersey is maybe the one I'd say resettles far less per capita than most other states with ~9-10 mil population. Kentucky interestingly is an outlier, despite being on the smaller end of State populations it is a big resettler.

[Berkut]

I'm seeing allegations that not only did the people lie to those migrants in order to induce them to get on the bus or plane, and that they did not inform anyone that the migrants were coming (we knew this part)...

but that they told the migrants to report their new address to the wrong agency, and listed their home address as being at random homeless shelters across the country.  That would mean they needed to report to the nearest ICE (or whatever agency) office to those random addresses or they would be removed from the country for violating the terms of their release.

Yeah, but the lesson to take from all this is that, you know, they kind of have a point here.

[Admiral Yi]

It's certainly clever political theater.

[CountDeMoney]

It's certainly clever political theater.

Sure, like how chocking wheelchair tires is clever. Or suckerpunching 6 year olds during chemo is clever.  Nyuks for votes, so clever.

[The Minsky Moment]

Trump won Florida in 2020 with a big swing of Venezuelan voters convinced that Biden = SOCIALISM.

How does it play when DeSantis is fake deporting victims of Communist oppression?  Are the Magazuelans and their Cuban cousins really so brainwashed that they will keep cheering while the GOP shits in their face?

At the very least the Democrats have to get their PR team in gear.  CDM is right about it being a waste of time to talk about cruelty.  Try talking about Commandante DeSantis taking his orders from Maduro . . .

[HVC]

The GOP have Cubans locked down. Tied with the redneck north isn't that enough for them to win Florida?

[The Minsky Moment]

DeSantis believes that private business owners should have to do and say whatever the state tells them or face punishment.

Also did you know that DeSantis is Italian for "Castro"?  You can look it up.