Trump's rank among the presidents

[Maladict]

Now that it's (mostly) over, where do you think history will assign Trump among the 45 presidents?

Or, which ones were worse than Trump?

[Syt]

He'll be worst till the next one who's worse - which is a when, not if.

[Caliga]

He's definitely down in the lowest tier with Andrew Johnson and Warren Harding.

[Malthus]

Disasterously bad.

Though given that previous presidents have presided over the conditions leading to an actual civil war, it will be hard for him to seize the lowest place, objectively speaking.

[Caliga]

Though given that previous presidents have presided over the conditions leading to an actual civil war, it will be hard for him to seize the lowest place, objectively speaking.

I give Buchanan a pass because a) he's a fellow Pennsylvanian, and b) it must have been tough being a closeted gay man at that time.

[Josquius]

I really don't know enough of pre-20th century presidents to give a clear answer.
Plus how do you compare the radically different positions between now and 200 years ago.
Certainly amongst more recent presidents who are comparable he is dead last.

[Sheilbh]

Though given that previous presidents have presided over the conditions leading to an actual civil war, it will be hard for him to seize the lowest place, objectively speaking.

I give Buchanan a pass because a) he's a fellow Pennsylvanian, and b) it must have been tough being a closeted gay man at that time.

Abe did fine (though not dealing with the issues of being a Pennsylvanian)

One of the worst. If you judge him against what he set out to do he's a huge failure (with the exception, possibly, of China policy). If you judge him against norms and historical precedent, then he's a huge failure. I can't think of a metric where you could say he succeeded.

[mongers]

Though given that previous presidents have presided over the conditions leading to an actual civil war, it will be hard for him to seize the lowest place, objectively speaking.

I give Buchanan a pass because a) he's a fellow Pennsylvanian, and b) it must have been tough being a closeted gay man at that time.

Abe did fine (though not dealing with the issues of being a Pennsylvanian)

One of the worst. If you judge him against what he set out to do he's a huge failure (with the exception, possibly, of China policy). If you judge him against norms and historical precedent, then he's a huge failure. I can't think of a metric where you could say he succeeded.

Vladimir Putin would disagree with you.

[Habbaku]

He's definitely down in the lowest tier with Andrew Johnson and Warren Harding.

Harding isn't nearly as bad as people think and certainly belongs nowhere near the same tier as Nixon and Buchanan.

[Maladict]

I can't think of a metric where you could say he succeeded.

He didn't die, I suppose.

[Sheilbh]

I can't think of a metric where you could say he succeeded.

He didn't die, I suppose.

Leave William Henry Harrison alone!

[The Brain]

I wouldn't be that surprised if history will praise him as a modern day Caesar paving the way for the Principate.

[Grey Fox]

Most US presidents are bad, he's also bad so Bottom 20 I'd say.

[Maladict]

I wouldn't be that surprised if history will praise him as a modern day Caesar paving the way for the Principate.

He did enjoy the military parade in Gaul. But he looks more like a Lepidus to me.

[Sheilbh]

Older, vain, meticulous coiffed barneg - he's clearly Pompey