US Election Week 2020

[Sheilbh]

So this is kind of fascinating and - I get that 92 had Perot - but Georgia in 1992 by county and in 2020 when, both times, the Democrats won by a narrow lead. 1992:


2020:

[Eddie Teach]

Trump lost in the burbs what he gained in the sticks.

[Tonitrus]

I suppose it says something about the progress of American unity that rural Southerners are happy to be taken in by a New York huckster. 

[Sheilbh]

Also it just feels red v blue states is very redundant. It's urban v rural, within states as well, which is why the suburbs are the key areas.

The other point is the ideological sorting. We talk about online bubbles etc - I'd suggest all of that matters less than the sort of physical/community sorting you see on that map and the very real physical bubbles people are in.

[Razgovory]

It looks like a dramatic increase in polarization.   Georgia has changed quite a bit in 30 years so the underlying demographics have probably changed as well.  The black belt seems smaller than it was in 1992.

[OttoVonBismarck]

I would guess the black belt (rural black communities) probably is smaller as a share of Georgia's population than 20-30 years ago. Growth in Georgia isn't happening much in rural areas, much as rural areas everywhere are not really places where we observe significant economic or population growth in this country. Growth is in metro areas, sometimes in the core cities (sometimes not), but massively in the suburbs/exurbs. I also wouldn't doubt Republicans probably do a tad better with black belt voters than they did 30 years ago, rural black people very likely have many of the same conservative cultural leanings as rural whites.

[dane]

So it's funny but I have actually been doing a lot of reading about FDR's campaigns in 2020. Mainly because while I feel like I'm decently well read on that era of U.S. history, I had never done much of a dive into the specifics of FDR's campaigns, and to a degree I assumed Hoover's mismanagement of the economy and the widespread blame the country laid on the GOP for that kinda set FDR up for an easy walk. While some of that is true, if you follow his New York gubernatorial campaigns and some of his more contested Presidential campaigns, the guy really was in my opinion an amazing political messenger. I don't think you can just copy and paste stuff from the 1930s into the 2020s, but some of the tone and underlying ideas behind those FDR campaigns are universal and I think you could really argue for the Democrats making more arguments like this in the future. Most Democrat campaigns I have observed in the past 10 years come off as too wonky, too mired in complex policy issues most voters don't take the time to understand and etc.

Would you mind recommending some books on the topic? It sounds interesting.

[Valmy]

Have you been lurking for 11 years and only now decided to post something?

[Admiral Yi]

Dang

[dane]

Have you been lurking for 11 years and only now decided to post something?

Well...Umm...Yeah that's about it.

I used to play eu2 and registered so I could play in a few games here before the site crashed. Since then I've been lurking because the people on this site generally share my interests. You guys post a lot of interesting news I might not catch otherwise. Also, it is one of the few places on the internet where people on both sides of American politics talk to each other with something resembling civility. Plus who doesn't enjoy a good pun? I don't post much (at all) because someone usually has my opinion covered and I already spend enough time just reading this site 

[Grey Fox]

Hi.

[grumbler]

Dane just won the internet.  We can all go home, now. 

[HisMajestyBOB]

Have you been lurking for 11 years and only now decided to post something?

Well...Umm...Yeah that's about it.

I used to play eu2 and registered so I could play in a few games here before the site crashed. Since then I've been lurking because the people on this site generally share my interests. You guys post a lot of interesting news I might not catch otherwise. Also, it is one of the few places on the internet where people on both sides of American politics talk to each other with something resembling civility. Plus who doesn't enjoy a good pun? I don't post much (at all) because someone usually has my opinion covered and I already spend enough time just reading this site 

That's awesome 

[Admiral Yi]

Epic uncloaking.

[Barrister]

Have you been lurking for 11 years and only now decided to post something?

Well...Umm...Yeah that's about it.

I used to play eu2 and registered so I could play in a few games here before the site crashed. Since then I've been lurking because the people on this site generally share my interests. You guys post a lot of interesting news I might not catch otherwise. Also, it is one of the few places on the internet where people on both sides of American politics talk to each other with something resembling civility. Plus who doesn't enjoy a good pun? I don't post much (at all) because someone usually has my opinion covered and I already spend enough time just reading this site 

That's awesome.

Post more Dane.