US Election Week 2020

[Maladict]

Apparently Mike Pence is going on vacation for a week in Florida 

I guess that's where he'll hide out waiting for the court fight charade to pass.

Smart man.

[Tonitrus]

Apparently Mike Pence is going on vacation for a week in Florida 

I guess that's where he'll hide out waiting for the court fight charade to pass.

Mar a Lago? 

[HVC]

Apparently Mike Pence is going on vacation for a week in Florida 

I guess that's where he'll hide out waiting for the court fight charade to pass.

Mar a Lago? 

A four seasons

[OttoVonBismarck]

What I don't get about those fraud claims - if cheating decided the decided the vote in favor of Biden then why didn't the conspirators also rig the Senate and House polls?

The cheating accusations are absolutely ludicrous but Trump has his supporters believing them and the Senate candidates are terrified his supporters will blame the GOP (and not vote for them in the runoff). So the Republican secretary of state gets thrown under the bus.

What I don't get is why Trump supporters believe him. Maybe you think Trump is great despite a strained relationship with the truth, but at this point how can you think he is the most credible guy in the room?

I'm not sure anyone believes them even within Trump's inner circle. The counting process is almost over and the certification process will be going on over the next month or so, once these votes are certified it's incredibly unlikely you can do much of anything legally. Compare the scope and type of lawsuits that Trump's team are filing--what amount to mostly limited # of ballots involved, limited scope cases that even if they won would not change the outcome to the lawsuits around FL2000 that directly and materially involved the mechanism of deciding the overall election.

It's not just that Trump's team isn't winning cases, they aren't even on the field of battle you would need to be on to actually win the election. That suggests these cases have no real purpose other than to make Trump feel good and give him things that make him happy to tweet about. I imagine he'll have a whole second meltdown when it's more publicly obvious that none of these cases can do anything he wants.

Even for example the most expansive case, the one that is asking the Supreme Court to say Pennsylvania was wrong to extend the mail in ballot deadline because it violates the privileges of the State Legislature under the U.S. Constitution, would not actually overturn the results in this specific case, if it was ruled on the way Trump wanted it would likely open us to more confused and bad situations in the future, but wouldn't be able to change enough votes on the field right now to meaningfully impact Trump's outcome.

The thing about PA is Trump lost decisively when you counted all the votes that got in on or before election day, the late arriving votes are a meme because Biden had already won by tens of thousands of votes before any of those had even been counted. A lot of more casual observers assumed the ballots PA was counting from Weds thru Saturday were mostly those late arrivals--they weren't, that was just them (very slowly) counting all the mail in ballots that had arrived sometimes weeks ago. Most counties had relatively few ballots come in after the election date.

[The Minsky Moment]

What I don't get is why Trump supporters believe him.

Same reason they believe Mexico will pay for the nonexistent wall.
Believing in the absurd and obviously false is how you demonstrate the faith.

[Admiral Yi]

A four seasons

[Maladict]

Fox has really changed its tune.

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1325927279957057537

[11B4V]

Fox has really changed its tune.

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1325927279957057537

[crazy canuck]

Fox has really changed its tune.

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1325927279957057537

about 4 years too late but better late than never I guess.

[Admiral Yi]

NC has started to report, three small batches (so presumably rural?), Joe is averaging 64%, needs 70%.  So looks like NC is in play.

[Valmy]

What does Cunningham need is what I want to know.

[Josquius]

Arizona looks to be shifting slowly trumpwards

[alfred russel]

What does Cunningham need is what I want to know.

Trump is up 74,899 votes; Tillis is up 95,338.

I doubt it will happen, especially not for Tillis.

[Admiral Yi]

Arizona looks to be shifting slowly trumpwards

A good sized chunk just broke even, helping out Joe.

[Admiral Yi]

Biscuit Scraper is now reporting only 5,503 left to count in GA (he has been reporting "unknown" for a while now) and Joe leading by 12,338.