US Election Week 2020

[Syt]

https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status/1326156414692315136?s=20

Eric Trump
@EricTrump
Minnesota get out and vote!!!
2:35 PM · Nov 10, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

 

Since the Tweet might disappear later, here it's as a screenshot:

[FunkMonk]

Senator Chris Coons (close friend to Biden) said on CNN this morning that his colleagues in the Senate are asking him to convey their congratulations to the new President-elect privately because they can't do so publicly yet 

[Tamas]

https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status/1326156414692315136?s=20

Eric Trump
@EricTrump
Minnesota get out and vote!!!
2:35 PM · Nov 10, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

 

Since the Tweet might disappear later, here it's as a screenshot:

[Maladict]

Since the Tweet might disappear later, here it's as a screenshot:

Looks like it's already gone. He really is the family idiot.

[alfred russel]

Meanwhile, Biden is down to 86 cents.  I think we already have our Benghazi for Biden's presidency.

It is so ridiculous. I now have $26k on the site and I feel like I don't have nearly enough money to cover all the epically stupid bets out there. The only logical explanation I can come up with is that Trump nation really believes him.

I mean, the Michigan senate race was called, the votes counted, and the republican is down about 85k votes. Every media outlet has called the race. I thus thought I made a great bet by placing max bets against the Republican and on the Democrat at 96 cents. But then Trump and the Senate candidate started screaming "FRAUD!" and the price is now 88 cents.

I can't think of a conceivable scenario that gets John James (the republican candidate) into the senate when he is down 85k votes and the votes have been counted.

[alfred russel]

Since the Tweet might disappear later, here it's as a screenshot:

Looks like it's already gone. He really is the family idiot.

Someday, he is going to be our president.

[Tamas]

I of course understand the myriad differences between the two, but it is still a bit ironic how the non-fascist side went from "well OF COURSE there was Russian meddling in the US election" in 2016 to "LOL of course it is IMPOSSIBLE to meddle in the US election" while the fascist side did the exact thing just in the opposite direction.

[crazy canuck]

I of course understand the myriad differences between the two, but it is still a bit ironic how the non-fascist side went from "well OF COURSE there was Russian meddling in the US election" in 2016 to "LOL of course it is IMPOSSIBLE to meddle in the US election" while the fascist side did the exact thing just in the opposite direction.

If you understand the myriad differences, where is the irony?

[The Minsky Moment]

I of course understand the myriad differences between the two, but it is still a bit ironic how the non-fascist side went from "well OF COURSE there was Russian meddling in the US election" in 2016 to "LOL of course it is IMPOSSIBLE to meddle in the US election" while the fascist side did the exact thing just in the opposite direction.

There was a little speculation about how the Russians could have affected the count, but aside from a conspiratorial fringe, those allegations weren't aired.  It's an apples-to-oranges comparison.

[Tamas]

I of course understand the myriad differences between the two, but it is still a bit ironic how the non-fascist side went from "well OF COURSE there was Russian meddling in the US election" in 2016 to "LOL of course it is IMPOSSIBLE to meddle in the US election" while the fascist side did the exact thing just in the opposite direction.

If you understand the myriad differences, where is the irony?

It showcases the level of tribalism and denial. Especially on the fascist side of course, but the left is far from being free of it as well. Even here several people liked to attribute Trump's success to Russian trollfarms, but this election has proved quite conclusively that there's more than enough support for his kind of so called "leadership" without any noticeable meddling. Only reason he lost is that luckily the fascists' attempts at voter suppression didn't work, and Trump managed to mobilise more people against himself than for.

[Tamas]

I of course understand the myriad differences between the two, but it is still a bit ironic how the non-fascist side went from "well OF COURSE there was Russian meddling in the US election" in 2016 to "LOL of course it is IMPOSSIBLE to meddle in the US election" while the fascist side did the exact thing just in the opposite direction.

There was a little speculation about how the Russians could have affected the count, but aside from a conspiratorial fringe, those allegations weren't aired.  It's an apples-to-oranges comparison.

Oh come on now.

[Valmy]

I of course understand the myriad differences between the two, but it is still a bit ironic how the non-fascist side went from "well OF COURSE there was Russian meddling in the US election" in 2016 to "LOL of course it is IMPOSSIBLE to meddle in the US election" while the fascist side did the exact thing just in the opposite direction.

I thought the issue was that Russia was spreading misinformation and that kind of thing not actually changing votes and so forth.

I don't pay a ton of attention to scandal mongering so sometimes I admit I didn't get all the details, or they didn't stick much with me.

Ah well. I only asked an investigation be done, an investigation was done, and I hope lessons were learned to help with that kind of foreign interference in the future. If there were issues with this election I only ask for the same. There probably are some ways our elections could be done better.

[Valmy]

New York still has over 2 million votes to count. Come on!

[DGuller]

I of course understand the myriad differences between the two, but it is still a bit ironic how the non-fascist side went from "well OF COURSE there was Russian meddling in the US election" in 2016 to "LOL of course it is IMPOSSIBLE to meddle in the US election" while the fascist side did the exact thing just in the opposite direction.

Apart from a myriad of differences, humans and mice are exactly the same.  The one very key difference is that Russian meddling was not alleged to tamper with the votes cast, it was just alleged to influence how the people voted.

[Sheilbh]

Oh come on now.

I always thought the allegations around Russians was that they influenced the campaign not the count: misinformation, bots on social media, hacking the DNC/Clintons and releasing leaks at appropriate times etc. I didn't think it was that they interfered with the vote count itself.

As I've said elsewhere I think the US electoral system is vulnerable to an attack on the actual counting/tallying/reporting infrastructure - but that's just because it's so decentralised. That probably makes it less attractive to, say, Russian hackers and more vulnerable to shit-poster style hackers or criminals using ransomware. It's not likely to be about switching votes or adding votes though.

Lovely detail from one reporter's piece on Latinos on the Mexican border who voted for Trump - they liked the covid cheque signed by Trump and general stimulus. Also, while the wall is deeply unpopular with them, they live close enough to the wall to also know that it's not really being built and Trump is just bullshitting