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Eddie Van Halen dies

Started by Josephus, October 06, 2020, 02:58:44 PM

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Quote from: Josephus on October 07, 2020, 06:49:34 AM
Not to change the focus of this thread, but I think Jimi Hendrix is overrated. He was great, but many others have come since who are greater. i mean, who cares what Rolling Stone thinks, it's been irrelevant since the 80s.
There are guitar virtuosos whose playing I personally like better (including Eddie), but no way anyone was more influential than Jimi.
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RIP Eddie

Quote from: 11B4V on October 07, 2020, 08:20:17 AM
Off topic: Hendrix #1 He was doing things nobody else was at the time.

Yeah, we have Hendrix fatigue because we got no evolution. It's the same riffs, same melodies for 50 years but he's still the George Washington of Guitar.
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Quote from: Grey Fox on October 07, 2020, 08:38:09 AM
RIP Eddie

Quote from: 11B4V on October 07, 2020, 08:20:17 AM
Off topic: Hendrix #1 He was doing things nobody else was at the time.

Yeah, we have Hendrix fatigue because we got no evolution. It's the same riffs, same melodies for 50 years but he's still the George Washington of Guitar.

Your post made me read up on Carver's Wiki. The sentence "He was often on the road promoting Tuskegee University, peanuts, and racial harmony" should be able to be said about more people IMHO.
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Quote from: Caliga on October 06, 2020, 08:46:28 PM
It's Jimi Hendrix. :sleep:

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Quote from: The Brain on October 06, 2020, 04:45:16 PM
Prince at #33? This subjective list made to get clicks seems to be flawed.

Yes, it is deeply flawed.  It is really just a popularity poll rather than a list of skill.  No Lenny Breau in the top 20 for example.

But Hendrix should top both. 



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Quote from: crazy canuck on October 07, 2020, 12:19:15 PM
Yes, it is deeply flawed.  It is really just a popularity poll rather than a list of skill. 

it's worse then that, because it completely mixes up styles and genres and skills that aren't commensurable.  For example look at 22-24 which has in succession Frank Zappa, Buddy Guy and Angus Young.  On what basis are they being compared?   Figuring out where to put the blues guys vs the rock guys is an insolvable problem, with odd results like Bo Diddley imitator Keith Richards being ranked well above Bo Diddle;  Robert Johnson at the back of the bus stuck between Jack White and Kurt Cobain.  Other than the odd choice of Les Paul - best known for design and manufacture, and a couple fusion guys, there don't seem to be any jazz musicians, so key pioneers like Eddie Durham and Charlie Christian that everyone stole from are missing (not to mention no Wes Montgomery, Grant Green, Sonny Sharrock, etc.). Carlos Santana is in the top 20 (deserved) but John McLaughlin is 68 - odd given that they have played together as ostensible equals for years.
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Quote from: 11B4V on October 07, 2020, 08:20:17 AM
On topic: RIP Eddie.

Off topic: Hendrix #1 He was doing things nobody else was at the time.

OK. In 1966 he was the best.
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Quote from: 11B4V on October 07, 2020, 08:20:17 AM
On topic: RIP Eddie.

Off topic: Hendrix #1 He was doing things nobody else was at the time.

Yeah, it's like arguing that Shakespeare was over-rated because his writing is full of clichés.
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