Coronavirus Sars-CoV-2/Covid-19 Megathread

Started by Syt, January 18, 2020, 09:36:09 AM

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Sheilbh

Quote from: Tamas on September 16, 2020, 08:46:36 AM
I still think that the whole young-people-are-dominating thing is (or was a week or two ago) because the disease is far less widespread than March-May, we are just now bothering to test people who are not on their last breaths.

But it does sound like is increasingly finding its way to vulnerable people again, as people have largely stopped caring.
I think you're right. My concern is more either the testing is really broken down so the amount of cases per tests is increasing because we're able to do fewer tests or it is spreading again - but as you say it seems to be predominately with young people which makes sense: schools are back, I think young people (like me :goodboy:) are taking more of a risk-based approach to the rules while older/vulnerable people are probably being more strict.

But I saw an incredible story from the US of seven deaths (six in a nursing home) directly linked to a wedding and reception. None of the people who've died actually attended the wedding. It's so dangerous if it reaches vulnerable people.
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Tamas

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 16, 2020, 09:04:56 AM

But I saw an incredible story from the US of seven deaths (six in a nursing home) directly linked to a wedding and reception. None of the people who've died actually attended the wedding. It's so dangerous if it reaches vulnerable people.

Well, I mean, duh? :P There's no rule saying the virus won't spread on if you caught it at a gathering, that's the crux of the problem: probably young people themselves are safe to socialise because most of them won't fall ruinously ill, but they interact with others who are older, and they interact with their age group and older etc.

celedhring

Yeah, I'm getting a feeling of "it's not a big deal anymore" complacency around people here too, because mortality rates are so astonishingly low compared to the spring, and I'm afraid this autumn could be a rude awakening.

Syt

#10473
Bunch of dimwits in Florida, blasting "We're not gonna take it" in a supermarket and shouting at people to take off their masks.

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1306068367833550848?s=20

EDIT: made the mistake to start reading the comments below .... jeeeezus.
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Syt

Quote from: celedhring on September 16, 2020, 10:00:50 AM
Yeah, I'm getting a feeling of "it's not a big deal anymore" complacency around people here too, because mortality rates are so astonishingly low compared to the spring, and I'm afraid this autumn could be a rude awakening.

It's what it feels like in Vienna. We have hundreds of new cases per day, and several countries have issued warnings/added quarantine restrictions for people who were in Vienna, but hospitalizations are (yet) low, and the city government that everything is still fine and manageable and people just need to be more careful like they were in March.
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garbon

Quote from: Syt on September 17, 2020, 12:24:15 AM
Bunch of dimwits in Florida, blasting "We're not gonna take it" in a supermarket and shouting at people to take off their masks.

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1306068367833550848?s=20

EDIT: made the mistake to start reading the comments below .... jeeeezus.

Small note, while many Target locations also sell grocery items, they aren't supermarkets.
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Syt

Quote from: garbon on September 17, 2020, 12:48:14 AM
Small note, while many Target locations also sell grocery items, they aren't supermarkets.

Messerschmidt :P
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Tamas

Seems like we are gearing up for a 2 weeks national lockdown. It is denied too vehemently to be not true. :P

Sheilbh

In the Times, this is kind of helpful as we're going into winter - in particular I hadn't realised that sneezing isn't a symptom for covid. Probably didn't need that covid test in retrospect :hmm:
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The Larch

Over here the process to get kids back to school seems to be becoming a huge boondongle. In my region they've changed the sanitary protocol for secondary schools three times before the school year started, with the last change being published just today, less than a week before the lessons are meant to start. Primary schools already re-started, but whenever there are cases detected there seems to be a total disconnection with health authorities regarding whether students should stay home or a classroom closed.

In general terms, the region of Madrid is currently in turnmoil as its government seems focused on implementing local lockdowns in some municipalities and some districts of the capital, but public authorities contradict each other and it's unclear when or where will lockdowns take place and what they'd imply. They also seem to have completely squandered all the time to implement the necessary measures, as it was shown that they haven't set up any kind of contact tracing system or hired reinforcements for the regional health service. The regional president seems to have chosen the "Why do they always pick on me?" defence and claiming to be the real victim to answer to all these criticisms. Rumblings of a possible deposition have started.

The Larch

Quote from: Sheilbh on September 17, 2020, 05:19:17 AM
In the Times, this is kind of helpful as we're going into winter - in particular I hadn't realised that sneezing isn't a symptom for covid. Probably didn't need that covid test in retrospect :hmm:

Really? I thought it was mentioned since almost the very beginning, that Covid patients didn't sneeze or produce mucus.

garbon

Quote from: The Larch on September 17, 2020, 05:33:43 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on September 17, 2020, 05:19:17 AM
In the Times, this is kind of helpful as we're going into winter - in particular I hadn't realised that sneezing isn't a symptom for covid. Probably didn't need that covid test in retrospect :hmm:

Really? I thought it was mentioned since almost the very beginning, that Covid patients didn't sneeze or produce mucus.

Indeed. I recall early on needing to tell people my sneezing (due to allergies) was not a sign of coronavirus.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."

I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

celedhring

Quote from: The Larch on September 17, 2020, 05:33:43 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on September 17, 2020, 05:19:17 AM
In the Times, this is kind of helpful as we're going into winter - in particular I hadn't realised that sneezing isn't a symptom for covid. Probably didn't need that covid test in retrospect :hmm:

Really? I thought it was mentioned since almost the very beginning, that Covid patients didn't sneeze or produce mucus.

People mix up sneezing and coughing, which has generated confusion regarding Covid.

Syt

Here we go. From Monday, private indoor gatherings will be limited to ten people. (This is for bars, restaurants etc. - for private residences it will be a recommendation, as the constitutional court decided in summer that this is not something the state can enact in this case, or enforce.)

In restaurants, food and drink is only to be taken at tables, and maximum 10 people per table. Wearing masks is mandatory in restaurants if you're not at your table, and at open air markets and at expos.
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Sheilbh

Does seem to be picking up in CE/SE Europe, but generally not looking good:
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