Crusader Kings III

[Josephus]

woah! No primogeniture till late medieval ages.
So all that conquering goes to naught if you have multiple sons.

[Tamas]

woah! No primogeniture till late medieval ages.
So all that conquering goes to naught if you have multiple sons.

Which is awesome.

Also I would like to point out that for a few dynasty points you can disinherit a child so despite all the crying on the paradox forum it is actually quite easy to manage.

[HVC]

woah! No primogeniture till late medieval ages.
So all that conquering goes to naught if you have multiple sons.

Just don't create multiple kingdoms. you can still blob up

[celedhring]

How historical is that? It works for Iberia (Aragon was split in the XIIIth century among King Jaume's issue, for example) but I'm not that familiar with the rest of Europe.

[Tamas]

How historical is that? It works for Iberia (Aragon was split in the XIIIth century among King Jaume's issue, for example) but I'm not that familiar with the rest of Europe.

The timing of making primogeniture available 1200ish feels ok to me. There are the Franks obvious early game example, and I remember the Hungarian royals of the period had a civil war pretty much every generation as the non-first borns would still get a significant power base.

[Tamas]

I like these intrigue hooks. Like most other changes it makes things more predictable and by-the-numbers which sometimes does remove a bit of realism (clockwork like precision on new claims, culture and religion conversion times and such) but actually increases it in others (the hooks) and for all of these the changes make it less frustrating to play.

[Sheilbh]

How historical is that? It works for Iberia (Aragon was split in the XIIIth century among King Jaume's issue, for example) but I'm not that familiar with the rest of Europe.

Anglo-Saxons had lots of partition but there was no "rule" it varied across England depending on the time and the location - it was all very particular. So splitting titles makes sense. My understanding is that the Normans were quite big on keeping land together by nominating a son as heir and brought that to England which became primegeniture.

I remember reading someone - a French historian I think - who argued that the different types of inheritance in Medieval Europe had an impact on later state development and arguably even modern politics. And from memory I think England was egalitarian (ie you split titles) until the Normans, South of France and Northern Spain were egalitarian, while Normandy and Northern France were primogeniture. No idea about Germany or CEE Europe though.

[Habbaku]

I really like that progress in early CK3 games isn't based on how much land you can gobble up, necessarily, but instead on how much gold you can pile, how good your heirs' traits are, what improvements you can build in the territory you will be keeping in succession, etc.

Changing the focus of the game from being a map-painting exercise is a great step, and I'm really interested to see what the team does in terms of DLC.

[Zanza]

Some areas of the HRE had partition until the early modern time, which is why there were so many small principalities. During the early middle ages, German kings were of course elected by the high nobles and bishops, which was later codified as the Prince electors. But also dukes were just named by the king or sometimes elected by their tribe, especially in the early Middle Ages. Not sure if there was any real right to inherit higher noble titles or if it was based on family prestige and having retainers. I guess baronies and counties were more stable.

[FunkMonk]

Leon trip report. Wrested away Castille from my sister-in-law, Princess Emma Capet, and forced her to renounce her claims in Spain. She's now being all melancholic and depressing in her brother's court in Paris. Alfonso is now King of Galicia, Castille, and Leon, but can't unite the three crowns into one until he retakes a couple counties from the muslims.

Alfonso's been busy in the bedroom too, with five children (one a bastard girl) to his name but only one male heir, so all his titles will go to the young lad. In the midst of this, Alfonso has had three different lovers at the same time while his wife, jealous of his public indiscretions, threw herself into romancing the King. They're now both soulmates, though Alfonso still retains his other three lovers (including his sister).

[Zanza]

So is there like no vassal limit anymore?

You can find your vassal limit on the lower section of the realm screen.

[Zanza]

You should definitely make your one heir a knight, FunkMonk! 

[Richard Hakluyt]

Playing as Poland I just have the one heir; but his knightly prowess is 35 and his martial stat is 21 ........ it is nervewracking but he serves both as a knight and commander

[garbon]

I think this tweet confirmed all I needed to know about state of CK3...

https://twitter.com/blgtylr/status/1302007245358747648?s=09

And no, not looking at the blob.

[Josephus]

Played for 8 hours now...still no nekkid people.

*well, 8 hours includes 2 hours of loading time.