Crusader Kings III

[The Brain]

Seems to be a lot of spell-users. No obvious tank class though.

[saskganesh]

If I have nundreds of characters and NPCS to keep notice of, dynamic portraits etc don't help me keep track of them. It looks great, but there's a gameplay trade off. Not my thing.

[crazy canuck]

I am the other way.  Portraits help me remember who is who.  I assume the game will also have the necessary charts and ledgers.

[garbon]

If I have nundreds of characters and NPCS to keep notice of, dynamic portraits etc don't help me keep track of them. It looks great, but there's a gameplay trade off. Not my thing.

Same. By all accounts p'dox made a visually impressive game with Imperator but then forgot/skimped on the important bits.

[Valmy]

I don't understand the desire to invest all these resources into graphics. Gamers do not really seem to care that much about graphics anymore in general. Many of the most mainstream successful games of the past decade have seemingly made the artistic choice to have archaic looking graphics.

And we are not talking about some immersive action game here we are talking about a grand strategy game.

This strikes me as resources going to the wrong thing.

But beyond upgrading the graphics I cannot think of any real need make a CK3...so there is that to.

[Josephus]

But beyond upgrading the graphics I cannot think of any real need make a CK3...so there is that to.

I'm pretty sure that was part of their thinking. How can we make CKIII different? Looks like they're going for realism graphics.

It's not without it's problems though. On the forum, one kid is already wondering why William the Conqueror doesn't have red hair.

[Josquius]

Its not like they're going for top quality shiny graphics. It's fairly ps3 era stuff.

I look forward to seeing Muhammed.

[Barrister]

Its not like they're going for top quality shiny graphics. It's fairly ps3 era stuff.

I look forward to seeing Muhammed.

Mohammed is already in CK2, as he is the ancestor of several islamic characters.

Paradox are no dummies though - his picture is just some arabic writing.

[Caliga]

Yeah, if he's in CK3 guarantee you they'll do the same so as to avoid causing offense.

Interestingly, I didn't realize they did that with Mohammed until I was tracing lineage in one CK2 playthrough and decided to see how far back I could go with my Caliph.

[Valmy]

They do give him the cruel trait though 

Not exactly very pious there Paradox.

[Tamas]

Just noticed that on the Game Pass site CK3 is categorised as roleplaying game. I guess that's fair.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

there's a 15€ off action on Kinguin at the moment (meaning it's still 35€) but I think I'll wait a bit regardless.

[garbon]

I just read that when Paradox split up Islam and Christianity (Insular) for more flavour, they struggled to figure out how to have a religious head cover more than one religion. It's on their list to fix after release...

[Josquius]

So basically they're going for a mass experiment with v1.0.

Doesnt bode well that they're having problems there. A need for hierarchies and titles to be more dynamic was a key flaw in CK2- e.g. The same guy can be Duke of Normandy, technically under the French King, and King of England in his own right.

[garbon]

The same guy can be Duke of Normandy, technically under the French King, and King of England in his own right.

Their stance on that.

The England/France situation is handled as in CK2 with the split between de jure and de facto titles and England being independent and de facto owning Normany but Normandy being de jure land under France.

In your system it doesn't matter if it wold be a rare occurrence, it would still need code to handle it, and that code would be very complex and be hard to present in the UI and design all the edge case handling. All of which would be for very little benefit to the simulation as even you acknowledge its a very rare thing. So putting in months upon months upon months of design, UI and code work into it is not a good use of time and would most likely come out with something incredibly impractical anyway.