737 Max grounded after second deadly crash by new airplane

[jimmy olsen]

Wouldn't want to get on one of these planes.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/10/africa/china-boeing-ethiopian-air-crash-intl/index.html

Airlines ground Boeing 737 MAX 8 planes after Ethiopian air crash
By Ben Westcott, Kara Fox and Serenitie Wang, CNN

Updated 1220 GMT (2020 HKT) March 11, 2019

(CNN)Airlines in multiple countries have suspended the use of Boeing's new 737 MAX 8 aircraft over concerns about its safety, after an Ethiopian Airlines flight of the same model crashed Sunday killing all 157 people on board.

Flight ET302 to Nairobi had just taken off from the Ethiopian capital of Addis Ababa Sunday when it reported technical problems and asked for permission to turn back. It crashed shortly afterwards.

As the crash investigation got underway, the Civil Aviation Administration of China ordered Monday that all domestic Boeing 737 MAX 8 jets be out of the air by 6 p.m. local time, due to its principle of "zero tolerance for safety hazards."
China has one of the world's largest fleets of Boeing 737 MAX 8, operating 97 of the planes, according to Chinese state-run media.

The move was followed by an announcement from Ethiopian Airlines that the carrier had grounded its fleet of Boeing 737 MAX 8 jets as an "extra safety precaution." Cayman Airways also said on Monday it was grounding both of its "new Boeing 737 MAX 8 aircraft ... until more information is received."

Sunday marked the second time in less than six months that a new Boeing aircraft crashed just minutes into a flight. A Lion Air Boeing 737 MAX 8 flight went down over the Java Sea in last October, killing all 189 people on board.

Both crashes are under investigation and there is no evidence of a link between the two, but similarities in the incidents have prompted caution among some airlines.

"Given in both air crashes, the aircrafts were newly delivered Boeing 737 MAX 8, and both accidents occurred during the take-off, they share certain similarities," the Chinese administration said in a statement. It added that it would contact Boeing and the US Federal Aviation Administration to confirm "flight safety" issues before allowing the planes to fly again.

Mary Schiavo, a CNN aviation analyst and the former Inspector General of the US Transportation Department, called the two incidents "highly suspicious."

"Here we have a brand-new aircraft that's gone down twice in a year. That rings alarm bells in the aviation industry, because that just doesn't happen," she said.

State-owned Ethiopian Airlines is one of Africa's leading aviation groups, and the continent's largest carrier by number of passengers.

The Kenyan and Ethiopian governments announced a joint disaster response team on Monday to investigate the crash. Kenya's Cabinet Secretary of Transport James Macharia described it as a "very complex investigation."

In a statement Sunday, Boeing said it was "deeply saddened" to hear about the loss of life in the Ethiopian Airlines plane crash.

"A Boeing technical team will be traveling to the crash site to provide technical assistance under the direction of the Ethiopia Accident Investigation Bureau and US National Transportation Safety Board," the statement said.

Investigations ongoing after crash

The Ethiopian Airlines flight to Nairobi, in Kenya, lost contact with authorities shortly after takeoff at 8.44 a.m. local time, just minutes after it left Bole International Airport.

Tewolde GebreMariam, Ethiopian Airlines CEO, said at a press conference Sunday that the pilot had reported technical difficulties and had been given clearance to return to the Ethiopian capital.

An eyewitness told CNN they saw smoke coming from the plane before it crashed on Sunday.

GebreMariam said a routine maintenance check hadn't revealed anything before takeoff. The pilot was a senior Ethiopian Airlines employee who had flown more than 8,000 hours and had an "excellent flying record," he added.

"As it is a fresh incident, we have not been able to determine the cause. As I said, it is a brand new airplane with no technical remarks, flown by a senior pilot and there is no cause that we can attribute at this time," GebreMariam said.

Speaking on Monday, Kenyan Transport Secretary Macharia said relatives of the victims would be given "the utmost attention," including accommodation and flights to Ethiopia, if necessary.

The US National Transportation Safety Board said on Sunday it would be sending a team of four to assist in the investigation into the crash.

CNN aviation expert Richard Quest said while a "final determination" on the cause of the crash might be years away, information from the flight recorders should be retrieved within a matter of weeks.
Global disaster

Citizens of 35 countries were among the 157 people killed in Sunday's crash, including 32 Kenyans, 18 Canadians, nine Ethiopians and eight passengers each from China, Italy and the United States.

The United Nations has announced 19 of their staff members were among the dead, including employees of the World Food Programme, the Office of the High Commissioner on Refugees and the Food and Agriculture Organization.

Not all victims have been named, but some details have been released.

Slovakian lawmaker Anton Hrnko announced Sunday that his wife and children, a son and a daughter, had been killed in the crash. "If you had known them, please think of them in a quiet memory," the statement from Hrnko's office said.

Kenyan Cedric Asiavugwa, a third-year student at Georgetown University in the US, was also among the victims, according to a statement from the university Sunday.

"The Georgetown family has lost a stellar student, a great friend to many, and a dedicated champion for social justice across East Africa and the world," the school said.

Pius Adesanmi, a Nigerian-Canadian professor and author, quoted a poignant bible verse in a Facebook post before boarding the ill-fated flight.

"If I take the wings of the morning and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea, even there your hand shall lead me, and your right hand shall hold me," the verse, identified in the post as Psalm 139:9-10, reads.

The Ethiopian government expressed its "deepest condolences to the families," in a statement from the office of Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed.

Clarification: This story has been updated to better reflect the comments made Monday by the Civil Aviation Administration of China.

CNN's Karen Smith and Bethlehem Feleke contributed to this article.

[DGuller]

Maybe Boeing tried to squeeze too much out of 737, and all the kludges cobbled together finally caught up with them.  Apparently the plane wouldn't be certified as stable to fly if it didn't have software installed that would keep the nose from climbing.

[Malthus]

I expect this to be on a future episode of "Mayday".

[crazy canuck]

I heard a veteran pilot speculating that the safety/piloting software on that plane can cause some counter intuitive moments while taking off such that a pilot's first instinct, which is to pull up on the yoke when the nose seems to be going down, is exactly the wrong thing to do. 

[alfred russel]

I've flown on air Ethiopia 3 times and had my worst experience on any airline with them (all but two bathrooms broke on a flight to the US from Ethiopia via Italy and thus featured 30 minute lines to get into the toilets which became exceptionally unhygienic). Also while the main international part of the Addis Ababa airport is quite nice, in the section mainly for local African flights the airport is awful - an overcrowded bathroom literally had buckets for urinals.

These are superficial impressions but I'd be surprised if at least some blame isn't on the airline.

[crazy canuck]

Airport terminals are not run by the airlines so I am not sure if a valid inference can be drawn from how the airport toilets are maintained to inform us how the plane is maintained or piloted.

[alfred russel]

Airport terminals are not run by the airlines so I am not sure if a valid inference can be drawn from how the airport toilets are maintained to inform us how the plane is maintained or piloted.

It is a state owned airline. I don't think it is a stretch to connect the way the state runs its aviation infrastructure to its airline.

[The Brain]

Isn't their safety record abysmal? I'm too lazy to google this mind.

[crazy canuck]

Airport terminals are not run by the airlines so I am not sure if a valid inference can be drawn from how the airport toilets are maintained to inform us how the plane is maintained or piloted.

It is a state owned airline. I don't think it is a stretch to connect the way the state runs its aviation infrastructure to its airline.

I think you misunderstand how a state owned corporation operates.

Isn't their safety record abysmal? I'm too lazy to google this mind.

no

[alfred russel]

I think you misunderstand how a state owned corporation operates.

In places like Ethiopia, I think the answer is poorly and corruptly. Do you still think I misunderstand?

Isn't their safety record abysmal? I'm too lazy to google this mind.

no

Well, I was just googling the 5 largest North American carriers for comparision. In the last 10 years, with a fleet of ~100 passenger aircraft, Ethiopian airlines have lost 2, with all lives lost. Delta, American Air Canada, and United have not had a fatality in the past 10 years.

Southwest has had 1 fatality in that time.

Ethiopian, with a comparatively miniscule fleet, have had 247 times the fatalities of the 5 largest carriers in North America in the last 10 years.

[crazy canuck]

In places like Ethiopia, I think the answer is poorly and corruptly. Do you still think I misunderstand?

I now think it goes beyond mere lack of comprehension.

[Caliga]

In places like Ethiopia, I think the answer is poorly and corruptly.

[dps]

FWIW, according to the AP, Ethiopian Airlines has a good reputation and is the largest carrier in Africa.

Also, witnesses said that smoke was coming from the rear of the plane before it crashed.  If that's accurate (granted, a big IF), it would seem to rule out both pilot error and software problems as the cause of the crash.

[alfred russel]

In places like Ethiopia, I think the answer is poorly and corruptly. Do you still think I misunderstand?

I now think it goes beyond mere lack of comprehension.

Ie, I'm beyond lack of comprehension and into understanding?

It is a deeply corrupt country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

It ranks 114th in the world in the corruptions perception index.

Some highlights from the CIA world fact book:

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/et.html

"Ethiopia - the second most populous country in Africa - is a one-party state with a planned economy....The state is heavily engaged in the economy. Ongoing infrastructure projects include power production and distribution, roads, rails, airports and industrial parks. Key sectors are state-owned, including telecommunications, banking and insurance, and power distribution. Under Ethiopia's constitution, the state owns all land and provides long-term leases to tenants. Title rights in urban areas, particularly Addis Ababa, are poorly regulated, and subject to corruption."

[DGuller]

FWIW, according to the AP, Ethiopian Airlines has a good reputation and is the largest carrier in Africa.

Also, witnesses said that smoke was coming from the rear of the plane before it crashed.  If that's accurate (granted, a big IF), it would seem to rule out both pilot error and software problems as the cause of the crash.

One thing that I learned from watching Mayday episodes is that witnesses often report that the plane was on fire before the crash, only to turn out to be wrong about it.