The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power

Started by Threviel, March 10, 2019, 02:58:54 PM

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Sophie Scholl

*curtsey* Glad to be of assistance and amusement.  :)
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Bauer

I enjoyed season two,  Sauron was great in his delicious manipulation of Celembrimbor.  Some aspects of the show could definitely be improved but overall I like it.

The trouble with hardcore Tolkien fans is they seem to treat his fictional mythology as a real dogmatic one and will never be pleased.

mongers

Quote from: Bauer on March 27, 2025, 10:27:07 PMI enjoyed season two,  Sauron was great in his delicious manipulation of Celembrimbor.  Some aspects of the show could definitely be improved but overall I like it.

The trouble with hardcore Tolkien fans is they seem to treat his fictional mythology as a real dogmatic one and will never be pleased.

:yes:
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

mongers

Quote from: mongers on March 27, 2025, 11:18:08 PM
Quote from: Bauer on March 27, 2025, 10:27:07 PMI enjoyed season two,  Sauron was great in his delicious manipulation of Celembrimbor.  Some aspects of the show could definitely be improved but overall I like it.

The trouble with hardcore Tolkien fans is they seem to treat his fictional mythology as a real dogmatic one and will never be pleased.

:yes:

So I bought the extended LOTR films, man by the third one, it's just tiresome rubbish with laughable inserts from the jackson writing crew.

In an effort to provide an antidote, I started to listening to the 1981 BBC radio series, good grief Robert Stephen's Aragon is so much better than Morton thingy's insipid role.

Also got the three Hobbit films at the same time, they were OK, probably because I'm not that 'invested' in the book and I guess Del Torro had left a decent imprint on the scripts.

Which is a round about way of say I think I'll watch the 'Rings of Power' again to finally cleanse the LOTR films from my memory.  :D
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Jacob

Quote from: Bauer on March 27, 2025, 10:27:07 PMI enjoyed season two,  Sauron was great in his delicious manipulation of Celembrimbor.  Some aspects of the show could definitely be improved but overall I like it.

Glad you liked it.

QuoteThe trouble with hardcore Tolkien fans is they seem to treat his fictional mythology as a real dogmatic one and will never be pleased.

I will never be pleased with any of this new Hollywood interpretations of Tolkien. It's not because I'm treating it as a "real dogmatic one", but because I think it misses the essence of what I love about his work.

Not sure why that would be trouble?

Bauer

I would counter that with the essence of storytelling (in my opinion) being putting your own spin on things, adapting, iterating, taking in actor feedback etc.  Combined with an entirely different storytelling medium of screen vs book requiring adaptation.

There's really no way you can capture Tolkien in a modern medium completely.  Nobody wants to see events stretching over centuries told as a fictional mythology.

Now the execution of said adaptation is another question.  In rings of power I thought the Sauron arc was a masterful performance of psychological abuse and thoroughly enjoyed Sauron portrayed as the great deceiver he is.  Other parts of the story like Gandalf are meh... think they missed an opportunity to tell the story of the blue wizards.