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The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power

Started by Threviel, March 10, 2019, 02:58:54 PM

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celedhring

Quote from: Threviel on February 11, 2022, 05:25:45 AM
And continuing my anal analyzing thing I just read today, in a totally unrelated place, that t-shirts were invented in the late 19th century and needed knitting machines.

Fuck it, fantasy shows should have historical advisors.

Short-sleeved garments have been around since ancient times...

But I agree with Oex that a lot of the clothing gives out a renaissance fair vibe. Will see the finished product.

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Threviel

Quote from: celedhring on February 11, 2022, 06:13:05 AM
Quote from: Threviel on February 11, 2022, 05:25:45 AM
And continuing my anal analyzing thing I just read today, in a totally unrelated place, that t-shirts were invented in the late 19th century and needed knitting machines.

Fuck it, fantasy shows should have historical advisors.

Short-sleeved garments have been around since ancient times...

But I agree with Oex that a lot of the clothing gives out a renaissance fair vibe. Will see the finished product.

Fusk it, anal analyzers should have historical advisors.

garbon

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viper37

Quote from: Valmy on February 10, 2022, 09:43:11 PM
After the disastrous and embarrassing Hobbit trilogy I just kind of decided emotionally that the Lord of the Rings trilogy was all the Middle Earth content I needed. So I am not really interested in this series at all...but hey there is always room for something good so I guess if it gets rave reviews I might check it out.
The extended cut is much better, you should give it a chance.  But it's nowhere near the night&day difference of the original LoTR movies and their extended cuts.
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It was already too long given the source material.
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Admiral Yi

Yeah, hard to see how The Hobbit would be improved by lengthening.

grumbler

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 11, 2022, 06:42:56 PM
Yeah, hard to see how The Hobbit would be improved by lengthening.

Not hard top see how it could be improved by deletion, though.
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Razgovory

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 11, 2022, 06:42:56 PM
Yeah, hard to see how The Hobbit would be improved by lengthening.

An extra 180 minutes of those giant worms.
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Quote from: grumbler on February 11, 2022, 06:48:22 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 11, 2022, 06:42:56 PM
Yeah, hard to see how The Hobbit would be improved by lengthening.

Not hard top see how it could be improved by deletion, though.
There's an edit that apparently does a solid job of making it tolerable. I downloaded it awhile back but haven't had the desire to give it a shot yet. It also removes all of the Dol Guldur material, which I enjoyed but is very much not vital to the plot. There seems like there would be almost too much editing to do to make it still coherent with all of the changes Jackson made.
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Quote from: Threviel on February 10, 2022, 11:59:09 PM
Ohh,  :blush:

And to expand on another thing, the story seems so tired and tropefull. Mysterious men with a troubled past, the single mom healer meeting an elf for forbidden love, the woman rising up to the demands of war (Galadriel being some commander makes me think that they are omitting Gil-Galad :cry:)

It just seems like a tired mess...
I have no issue with Galadriel being a combatant. She was one of the leaders of the long march across the Helcaraxë and her original name was "man-hearted" or something to that effect. I have a hard time thinking she just sat by idly while only male elves and men fought. Having more women in a variety of roles is a plus in my opinion. As to Gil-Galad, I'm betting he's still in it as he made the cut for the Jackson films so is somewhat of an established character. The one I'll be intrigued if he shows up is Anárion since he was totally left out of the Jackson films to the level that even statues that were supposed to be of him were changed like the Argonath.
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"Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did."

Threviel

Good points on Galadriel, but she is never describes as a war leader for the elves of Lothlorien. But yeah, have her as a fighter. Not super important, but it does not fit MY view of her. She is described as being involved in Dol Guldur, but I always imagined that she was doing magical stuff rather than swordfighty stuff.

The later seasons might stretch to the fall of Numenore, bit otherwise Elendil and his sons are out.

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grumbler

It concerns me that they've cast both Celebrimbor (Charles Edwards) and Isildur (Maxim Baldy).  Isildur was born at least four seasons after Celebrimbor's death. No reason to cast the character now, unless they are really compressing the story.

Also of concern is the description of Galadriel as being younger and more impetuous than the Galadriel of TLOTR.  Younger, yes, but still thousands of years old.  I'll be pissed if they present her as some young hothead.  It's already bad enough that they are destroying the mystique of the High Elves by showing them so closely.
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Jacob

I am definitely on team "too many candles" & "what ARE they doing to the lore" on this. I'm willing to give the show a look, but have low expectations going in, and will not watch it unless they're exceeded significantly.