Elon Musk: Always A Douche

[Hamilcar]

Users who are not paying for Blue are now limited to reading 600 tweets per day. I've deleted the app.

[Syt]

Users who are not paying for Blue are now limited to reading 600 tweets per day.

[Hamilcar]

It's pure product suicide. Does Elon hate Twitter this much?

[HVC]

I'm sure there's a Bing^TM alternative

[Hamilcar]

I can't wait for a stable, moderated version from Microsoft, Meta or Google.

[Hamilcar]

So apparently the problem is that Elon decide to just not pay his GCP bill.

[Syt]

Saw this comment. Tech talkers, does this make sense?

When Elon Musk announced the price changes for Twitter APIs, people predicted that this exact situation would happen.

Free Twitter APIs were introduced to reduce scraping. People want to know what's going on twitter no matter what and they will scrape the site if they have to. If you give them free APIs, you can reduce the network traffic, lighten the load, and you have better control of everything.

So he put prices that made the APIs unusable. People went back to scraping. Load is higher and extreme measures have to be taken. Exactly as predicted.

Does scraping vs. using API really make so much of a difference?

[Hamilcar]

Saw this comment. Tech talkers, does this make sense?

When Elon Musk announced the price changes for Twitter APIs, people predicted that this exact situation would happen.

Free Twitter APIs were introduced to reduce scraping. People want to know what's going on twitter no matter what and they will scrape the site if they have to. If you give them free APIs, you can reduce the network traffic, lighten the load, and you have better control of everything.

So he put prices that made the APIs unusable. People went back to scraping. Load is higher and extreme measures have to be taken. Exactly as predicted.

Does scraping vs. using API really make so much of a difference?

No he literally refused to pay is Google Cloud Platform Bill and Google throttled/cut him off. He is BSing.

[Josquius]

I guess? Loading every element of pages vs just some data trimmed of everything superfluous.

[HVC]

Could Google throw up a "Twitter hasn't paid its bills" page, because that would be hilarious.

[Jacob]

Users who are not paying for Blue are now limited to reading 600 tweets per day. I've deleted the app.

For real? 

[Sheilbh]

Does scraping vs. using API really make so much of a difference?

It depends. Again it's not a social media platform but from a media publishing perspective - scraping v API has a technical impact (and cost). Also bluntly you don't really know what companies that are scraping your site are necessarily doing (you can't identify all of them) or how they're using that data. An API would massively help mitigate it.

The industry is quite keen to move to that model but it would kill off some businesses ("ad safety" vendors especially) and also basically restrict and introduce a cost to other companies who can currently do what they want for free (Oracle, Google etc). But that's because the people actually hosting the site are bearing the cost.

[Syt]

For real? 

[Syt]

Does scraping vs. using API really make so much of a difference?

It depends. Again it's not a social media platform but from a media publishing perspective - scraping v API has a technical impact (and cost). Also bluntly you don't really know what companies that are scraping your site are necessarily doing (you can't identify all of them) or how they're using that data. An API would massively help mitigate it.

The industry is quite keen to move to that model but it would kill off some businesses ("ad safety" vendors especially) and also basically restrict and introduce a cost to other companies who can currently do what they want for free (Oracle, Google etc). But that's because the people actually hosting the site are bearing the cost.

Thanks for the explanation.

[Syt]

https://sfba.social/@sysop408/110639435788921057

This is hilarious. It appears that Twitter is DDOSing itself.

The Twitter home feed's been down for most of this morning. Even though nothing loads, the Twitter website never stops trying and trying.

In the first video, notice the error message that I'm being rate limited. Then notice the jiggling scrollbar on the right.

The second video shows why it's jiggling. Twitter is firing off about 10 requests a second to itself to try and fetch content that never arrives because Elon's latest genius innovation is to block people from being able to read Twitter without logging in.

This likely created some hellish conditions that the engineers never envisioned and so we get this comedy of errors resulting in the most epic of self-owns, the self-DDOS.

Unbelievable. It's amateur hour.

#TwitterDown #MastodonMigration #DDOS #TwitterFail #SelfDDOS

Lest anyone doubt that Twitter was idiotic enough to release code that would cause a race condition and result in its own users executing a DDOS attack on it, here's the network console readout from Firefox showing all the network requests blasting away.

Of course I immediately closed out my connection because I'm a good person. Oh, but it's the weekend and Evil Sheldon is in control so I kept the party going for a while since Twitter insisted on it.

#TwitterDown #Twitter #MastodonMigration #DDOS #TwitterFail #SelfDDOS

(images at link)