Elon Musk: Always A Douche

[OttoVonBismarck]

Facebook has 240m American users, Twitter has 7 million American users.

Correction: first source I looked at was incorrect. While FB is estimated to have 240m monthly active American users, Twitter has more like 39m, so bigger than I said--but still quite a bit smaller than FB.

[crazy canuck]

Facebook has 240m American users, Twitter has 7 million American users.

Correction: first source I looked at was incorrect. While FB is estimated to have 240m monthly active American users, Twitter has more like 39m, so bigger than I said--but still quite a bit smaller than FB.

But Twitter gets amplified by news sources reporting on what is tweeted.

[The Larch]

Somebody had "conflict of interests" in his bingo card?

GM temporarily suspends advertising on Twitter following Elon Musk takeover

DETROIT — General Motors is suspending its advertising on Twitter following Elon Musk's takeover of the social media platform, the company told CNBC on Friday.

The Detroit automaker, a rival to Musk-led electric vehicle maker Tesla, said it is "pausing" advertising as it evaluates Twitter's new direction. It will continue to use the platform to interact with customers but not pay for advertising, GM added.

"We are engaging with Twitter to understand the direction of the platform under their new ownership. As is normal course of business with a significant change in a media platform, we have temporarily paused our paid advertising. Our customer care interactions on Twitter will continue," the company said in an emailed statement.

Under CEO Mary Barra, the Detroit company was among the first automakers to announce billions of dollars in spending to better compete against Tesla in the battery electric vehicle segment.

A spokesperson for Ford Motor, another Tesla rival, told CNBC that the automaker is not currently advertising on Twitter, and had not been doing so prior to Elon Musk's take-private deal. They added, "We will continue to evaluate the direction of the platform under the new ownership."

However, when presented with a screenshot of a promoted tweet from Ford CEO Jim Farley, the spokesperson could not confirm when was the last time Ford or its collaborators may have paid for ads, including promoted tweets, on the platform.

Ford is continuing to engage with its customers on Twitter.

Other auto companies, including Stellantis and Alphabet-owned Waymo, did not immediately respond to requests for comment on whether they plan to suspend advertising or discontinue using the social media platform in wake of Musk's $44 billion buyout of Twitter.

Electric truck maker Nikola said it had no plans to change anything regarding the platform. Rivian declined to comment.

The future direction of Twitter has been central to the takeover story. Musk has said he is a "free speech absolutist," who would restore the account of former President Donald Trump, who was banned over his tweets during the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol insurrection.

Musk said on Friday that he plans a "content moderation council" and will not reinstate any accounts or make major content decisions before it is convened. Musk also said in a statement to advertisers this week that he cannot let Twitter become a "free-for-all hellscape."

Henrik Fisker, CEO of EV startup Fisker Inc., deleted his Twitter account earlier this year when Twitter's board accepted Musk's bid to buy the company and take it private. Fisker Inc. continues to use Twitter, which every major automotive brand utilizes for customer engagement and marketing. The company said it had no plans to change what it's doing on the social network.

Musk has long boasted that Tesla does not pay for traditional advertising, a cost that has added up for conventional automakers' brands through the years.

Instead, Tesla rewards people who run, or are members of, Tesla owners' clubs as well as other social media influencers who promote the company's products, stock and Musk on social networks, especially Twitter and YouTube as well as on fan blogs.

They are often granted early access to Tesla products, like the company's Full Self Driving Beta software, and given passes to company events where attendance is limited.

In September 2020, Tesla weighed a stockholder proposal to begin strategic, paid advertising to educate the public about its vehicles and charging network. The Tesla board recommended against it, and shareholders voted with the board against starting to pay for traditional ad campaigns.

In the company's annual report for 2021, Tesla wrote: "Historically, we have been able to generate significant media coverage of our company and our products, and we believe we will continue to do so. Such media coverage and word of mouth are the current primary drivers of our sales leads and have helped us achieve sales without traditional advertising and at relatively low marketing costs."

It reported marketing, promotional and advertising costs were "immaterial" for the years ended Dec. 31, 2021, 2020 and 2019 in financial filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

[The Larch]

Elon continues doing magnificent PR for himself.

[Tamas]

You laugh but this is the kind of edgelord juvenile stuff that his incel cult of followers love.

[garbon]

Who is laughing?

[crazy canuck]

I was told he is brilliant and the world would be better off if we had more like him. I'm sure I just lack the intellect to understand the truth of that.

[celedhring]

So, I've seen it claimed that there are only 400,000 verified accounts on twitter. Even if they all went premium (and they won't), and paid the max rumored rate of 20 bucks, that'd be $8 million of monthly revenue, $96 million/year. This is an absolutely unrealistic best case scenario, and it would be just a drop in the ocean since Twitter earned $5 billion in 2021. This move makes absolutely no sense.

[crazy canuck]

So, I've seen it claimed that there are only 400,000 verified accounts on twitter. Even if they all went premium (and they won't), and paid the max rumored rate of 20 bucks, that'd be $8 million of monthly revenue, $96 million/year. This is an absolutely unrealistic best case scenario, and it would be just a drop in the ocean since Twitter earned $5 billion in 2021. This move makes absolutely no sense.

Musk's problem is that he got caught in one of his stunts and was forced by buy Twitter at a price that makes no sense. At some point the debt holders are going to call in their collateral, and then, mercifully, we will not talk about his brilliance anymore.

[Syt]

Seen on Twitter:

[The Minsky Moment]

So, I've seen it claimed that there are only 400,000 verified accounts on twitter. Even if they all went premium (and they won't), and paid the max rumored rate of 20 bucks, that'd be $8 million of monthly revenue, $96 million/year. This is an absolutely unrealistic best case scenario, and it would be just a drop in the ocean since Twitter earned $5 billion in 2021. This move makes absolutely no sense.

The currency of social media platforms is attention.  This move may never earn significant revenue and may fail completely, but it is commanding people's attention.  Everyone is talking about it.  On twitter.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Elon continues doing magnificent PR for himself.

It's not exactly wrong is it?

[Grey Fox]

Perceived value of goods and services is a thing.

[Habbaku]

It's very wrong, as GF points out.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Perceived value of goods and services is a thing.

Then they don't need to whine about not having the checkmark...

Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised most of the whining would not have existed if musk followed a certain orthodoxy.