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Elon Musk: Always A Douche

Started by garbon, July 15, 2018, 07:01:42 PM

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Neil

Tamas, wasn't Kia having problems with spontaneous combustion compared to most manufacturers?  That made the news last year, and you seem pretty well-researched in this matter.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

crazy canuck

No, there was a recall for a potential fault safety plug in the previous generation of Neros. There was not a problem with spontaneous combustion of cars. There has been no problems with the current generation.


Iormlund

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Quote from: Tamas on Today at 04:27:06 PMNot specific to Tesla but I can't really stomach the "empty dashboard with an ipad and a steering wheel" designs. Feels like a copout by the manufacturer.

Was one of the smaller reasons why we went with the Kia. And, for example, in the e=Niro, you adjust the self-charging brake/resistance with a couple of levers behind the wheel. I watched a reviewer try to do the same in a similarly sized MG - while driving a country road, he had to navigate several menus on the touchscreen to finally get to the option to change this very same thing. I am all for advance of technology but UX-wise this seems terrible.

Screens are much, much cheaper.

Back in the day industrial machines had panels full of physical buttons and lamps (like the control room of Chernobyl). Touch screens made them obsolete 25 or so years ago. If anything I'm surprised it took so long to arrive at the car industry.

Tamas

Quote from: Neil on Today at 05:13:05 PMTamas, wasn't Kia having problems with spontaneous combustion compared to most manufacturers?  That made the news last year, and you seem pretty well-researched in this matter.

Like CC wrote I can't remember reading anything about that. There are two recurring problems with the generation of the e-niro we bought:because there were hybrid versions of it as well, electronics operate off an old school 12v battery and that can die, if you overuse it between giving the EV batteries a chance to recharge it, hard to judge whether it's a real problem or people on Reddit have no concept of 12v batteries dying after a while.

The second is a sort of wheel of fortune noise developing in some engine component, which is an expensive repair, but I have made sure to by a car with provable service history so the 7 year Kia warranty will be applying for another 3.5 years.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on Today at 05:14:30 AMDon't be obtuse. Euromaidan wasn't about shooting people. Neither are the protests in Georgia or Slovakia,  both against authorianism.
Just like the revolutionaries didn't start shooting straight away either.

You take to the streets en masse, use that mass to block the doge-sturmabteilung from entering or leaving their targets.
But again: it's easier said than done


You told me to ask myself what American revolutionaries would do.  I did that.  How is that obtuse?

Jacob

Quote from: Iormlund on Today at 05:39:05 PMBack in the day industrial machines had panels full of physical buttons and lamps (like the control room of Chernobyl). Touch screens made them obsolete 25 or so years ago. If anything I'm surprised it took so long to arrive at the car industry.

The problem with screens in cars is that they require you to take your eyes off the road for longer periods of time than more tactile interfaces do. That's less of a concern for most industrial machines, I expect.