The shit in Spain falls mainly in the fan

[celedhring]

The Catalan government has indicated that they'll give no further response to Madrid, and the separatist parlamentary groups have announced they are working in the "parlamentary implementation of the results of the referendum" - so, the UDI.

The next two weeks will be pure shitstorm.

[Iormlund]

We wouldn't get back into the EU anytime soon. If only per encourager les autres. Spain has veto, too.

And yet taking a hardline on Catexit would be kind of cutting the nose to spite the face.
I would assume that an independent Catalonia would port over most existing EU law and regs to national law, and immediately seek EEA status.  Does that require unanimous consent from every EU state?  In any case, hard to think of a reasoned basis for refusing.
Once they're in EFTA/EEA seems to me full EU membership would be just a matter of time.

Haven't seen anything on English-speaking media, but apparently the head of EFTA just closed that particular door.

[grumbler]

Haven't seen anything on English-speaking media, but apparently the head of EFTA just closed that particular door. 

Croatia is only provisionally a member of EEA because all states within EEA have not yet agreed to its membership.  So, presumably, Spain can veto a Catalon EEA membership.  Only the EFTA members have to agree with membership in the EFTA, but that doesn't confer membership in the EEA.

[celedhring]

Madrid says that it won't intervene the Catalan autonomy if the Catalan president calls for elections, after rumours appeared in the separatist camp that he might do so and call them "Constituent Elections" (Madrid won't give a shit about what they chose to call them, since they would be triggered using Spanish law).

Of course, the radical faction won't buy that unless there's an UDI before the elections are called.

[Valmy]

Why does a small minority faction of a minority faction get to dictate the future of Catalonia?

[celedhring]

Why does a small minority faction of a minority faction get to dictate the future of Catalonia?

You're the fan of the French Revolution. You should know how these things work out.

In short: when the mobs are agitated, you don't want to be the one they call traitor.

[Duque de Bragança]

Why does a small minority faction of a minority faction get to dictate the future of Catalonia?

You're the fan of the French Revolution. You should know how these things work out.

In short: when the mobs are agitated, you don't want to be the one they call traitor.

[Valmy]

Why does a small minority faction of a minority faction get to dictate the future of Catalonia?

You're the fan of the French Revolution. You should know how these things work out.

In short: when the mobs are agitated, you don't want to be the one they call traitor.

Well ok you got me there. But at least in the French Revolution you needed a major war to break out for radicalism to rule the day.

[celedhring]

Why does a small minority faction of a minority faction get to dictate the future of Catalonia?

You're the fan of the French Revolution. You should know how these things work out.

In short: when the mobs are agitated, you don't want to be the one they call traitor.

Well ok you got me there. But at least in the French Revolution you needed a major war to break out for radicalism to rule the day.

We're just another episode of the weird wave of wealthy and free western societies where a bunch of its constituents suddenly decide that they are being OPRESSED and must BREAK FREE. In this case the nationalists were smart to capture that discontent and use it to their ends (the ruling moderate nationalist party was widely unpopular before they embraced separatism as a means of political survival), but they can't really control the behemoth.

[celedhring]

The Catalan Government says that if Madrid intervenes the autonomy, there will be an UDI. Madrid considers this answer "unsatisfactory" and that the Generalitat hasn't satisfied its request to return to the Constitutional order, thus it will proceed to trigger article 155 to enable intervention of the Generalitat. This can take a couple weeks, though, since it requires a debate and a vote in the Senate where the Generalitat can present its arguments.

It will be hell.

[celedhring]

By the way, just found out that a "Committee for the Defence of the Republic" has already been formed in the town next to mine.

[Archy]

Is there already a Comité de salut public being formed 

[Duque de Bragança]

Careful, the French references could be seen a catalan tendency to minimise or deny their Iberian-ness.  Hence, pro-independence.

[Valmy]

When Catalan Emperor Napoleon IV puts his brother on the throne of Spain they will all be sorry.

[celedhring]

The separatists are trying to organize a bank run on the two Catalan banks that moved their HQ outside of Catalonia to ensure they remain under the EBC umbrella "just in case".

They'll only manage to withdraw a rounding error in those banks' total deposits, but this is bordering on Darwin Award-esque.