Trump to begin nuking US economy over S. Korea

Started by CountDeMoney, September 02, 2017, 02:30:50 PM

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Trump preparing withdrawal from South Korea trade deal, a move opposed by top aides
By Damian Paletta
The Amazon Washington Post
September 2 at 1:47 PM

President Trump has instructed advisers to prepare a withdrawal from the United States' free-trade agreement with South Korea, several people close to the process said, a move that would stoke economic tensions with the U.S. ally at a time both countries confront a crisis over North Korea's nuclear weapons program.

While it is still possible Trump could decide to stay in the agreement in order to renegotiate its terms, the internal preparations for terminating the deal are far along and the formal withdrawal process could begin as soon as this coming week, said the people, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

A number of senior White House officials are trying to prevent Trump from withdrawing from the agreement, including national security adviser H.R. McMaster, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, and National Economic Council Director Gary Cohn, these people said.

A White House spokeswoman said "discussions are ongoing, but we have no announcements at this time."

One reason top White House advisers are trying to stop Trump from withdrawing from the South Korea free trade agreement is because they do not want to isolate the government in Seoul at a time when North Korea has become increasingly adversarial with its missile program, testing nuclear weapons and firing missiles over Japan in a way that has alarmed the international community.

If Trump withdraws from the agreement, he could try to force South Korea to import more U.S. products with little to no import restrictions, something he believes will help U.S. companies and workers. South Korea could also decide to refuse any discussions with Trump, kicking off a trade war between the countries.

The trade agreement was signed in 2007 and went into effect in 2012.

Withdrawing from the deal could lead to a large increase on tariffs levied against products the United States imports from South Korea, such as electronics, cellphones and automobiles. South Korea would probably move quickly to raise its own tariffs against U.S. products, and it could also decide to raise tariffs on its imports of U.S. agriculture products.

In July, U.S. Trade Representative Robert E. Lighthizer revealed some of Trump's complaints with the South Korea deal during a "special session" that was called in an attempt to begin renegotiations.

Lighthizer said at the time that since 2012, the U.S. "trade deficit in goods with Korea has doubled from $13.2 billion to $27.6 billion, while U.S. goods exports have actually gone down. This is quite different from what the previous Administration sold to the American people when it urged approval of this Agreement. We can and must do better."

Trump has expressed widespread frustration that he has not been able to follow through on campaign promises to rip up trade deals that he argues have disadvantaged U.S. workers. He came close several months ago to starting a withdrawal from the North American Free Trade Agreement, but he stopped short after intense lobbying by advisers and the business community.

But in recent days he has said he might still withdraw from NAFTA, accusing Mexico in particular of refraining to offer concessions during negotiations.

South Korea is the sixth-largest goods trading partner with the United States, accounting for $112.2 billion in two-way trade last year, according to the U.S. trade representative. U.S. companies exported $42.3 billion in goods to South Korea and imported $69.9 billion in goods last year, leaving a trade deficit of $27.7 billion.

Trump has said many countries that export more goods to the United States than they import are fleecing U.S. workers and consumers.

The U.S.-South Korea free-trade agreement, known as KORUS, allows the United States to terminate it after six months if it wishes to. So if Trump signed a letter to withdraw from the agreement, the deal would effectively be terminated in March 2018. KORUS was approved by Congress, but Trump could to pull out of the agreement on his own.

HVC

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Eddie Teach

Quote from: HVC on September 02, 2017, 02:44:46 PM
So... he mixed up the koreas didn't he?

Nah, he read the mean things Tim has been saying about him.
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dps

Quote from: Eddie Teach on September 02, 2017, 02:50:59 PM
Quote from: HVC on September 02, 2017, 02:44:46 PM
So... he mixed up the koreas didn't he?

Nah, he read the mean things Tim has been saying about him.

Trump is actually petty enough to start a trade war over something like that.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: HVC on September 02, 2017, 02:44:46 PM
So... he mixed up the koreas didn't he?

That level of thinking is way above where he is. He just wants to rip up trade deals.  His handlers should just give him a big sheaf of paper with TRADE DEAL written on it, Looney Toons style, and let him tear it up on TV.
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mongers

Is this a rather crude attempt by Trump to strong arm S.Korea into giving it's backing to a pre-emptive strike on the North?
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celedhring

It will be worth it just for the liberal tears when they have to pay more for their Galaxy Notes.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: mongers on September 02, 2017, 09:30:51 PM
Is this a rather crude attempt by Trump to strong arm S.Korea into giving it's backing to a pre-emptive strike on the North?

Giving him too much credit.
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dps

Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 03, 2017, 07:18:36 AM
Quote from: mongers on September 02, 2017, 09:30:51 PM
Is this a rather crude attempt by Trump to strong arm S.Korea into giving it's backing to a pre-emptive strike on the North?

Giving him too much credit.

Yeah, I think Minsky has the right of it--he just wants to tear up trade deals.

Jacob

Sounds like his understanding of trade stops at "positive trade balance with a country = US win, negative trade balance = US loss" and he wants to rack up the score and win more.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Jacob on September 03, 2017, 11:33:26 AM
Sounds like his understanding of trade stops at "positive trade balance with a country = US win, negative trade balance = US loss" and he wants to rack up the score and win more.

Much like foreign policy, the law and everything else, he sees international trade through the eyes of a 9-year old.  A retarded one.

But hey, angry white people wanted a disruptor so they're going get disrupted.  Hope all 800 of those coal jobs were worth trashing the consumer economy.