Time to Remove Aung San Suu Kyi's Nobel Peace Prize?

Started by mongers, September 01, 2017, 05:37:41 PM

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mongers

A deafening silence from the nobel peace prize winner on the ethnic cleansing going on in the country she now presides over.

QuoteNearly 40,000 Rohingya Muslims have fled to neighbouring Bangladesh since violence erupted in Myanmar's Rakhine state a week ago, the UN estimates.

Scores of people are reported to have died since Rohingya militants attacked police posts on 25 August.

Subsequent clashes have sent civilians from all communities fleeing.

Many Rohingya are trying to cross the Naf river to reach Bangladesh. On Friday, 16 more bodies were found washed up on the shore.

Their discovery brings the number of people believed to have died in capsized boats to about 40.

Mainuddin Khan, police chief of the Teknaf border town, told AFP news agency that the group included a young girl, and said they "had been floating in the river for a while".

On Thursday the UN Special Rapporteur on human rights in Myanmar, Yanghee Lee, said the "worsening cycle of violence" in Rakhine was of "grave concern and must be broken urgently"
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41120170
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Valmy

Why is Myanmar so hostile to the Muslims? Is this like if you are not Buddhist you are a threat to our pure cultural waters or something?
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Valmy

Quote from: Eddie Teach on September 01, 2017, 08:32:18 PM
Did they take away Arafat's prize and I missed it?

I don't think anybody has ever had a Peace Price taken away.
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mongers

Quote from: Valmy on September 01, 2017, 07:13:16 PM
Why is Myanmar so hostile to the Muslims? Is this like if you are not Buddhist you are a threat to our pure cultural waters or something?

Ethnic, racial, religious superiority, it's a heady mix.

These Burmese people are according to government and the Buddhist establishment non-citizens, despite those communities having lived there for generations. Think of them as the Jews of the Myanmar Reich.
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Barrister

IIRC Aung San Suu Kyi is President in a power-sharing agreement with the old military dictators.  Her ability to act is somewhat restrained.
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Valmy

Quote from: Ancient Demon on September 01, 2017, 10:02:06 PM
Quote from: Valmy on September 01, 2017, 07:13:16 PM
Why is Myanmar so hostile to the Muslims?

They tend to be violent separatists there.

Well if this is the threat they are under you can hardly blame them.

But I do not know much of the long term history.
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Quote from: Barrister on September 02, 2017, 12:19:24 AM
IIRC Aung San Suu Kyi is President in a power-sharing agreement with the old military dictators.  Her ability to act is somewhat restrained.

I just read an article about Burma and she's not allowed to hold elected office because her kids or her husband or somebody have foreign citizenship.  They made up a title of councilor for her.

grumbler

She's done more to deserve the award than Obama has.  Maybe Mongers should focus on convincing people to take back Obama's Nobel Peace Prize before he sets his sights on the harder retractions.
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mongers

Textbook ethnic cleansing now going on the Myanmar-Bangladesh border, especially the last few days and all the while a stony silence from the country's titular head.  :hmm:
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41315924

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Rohingya crisis: Suu Kyi does not fear global 'scrutiny'

19 September 2017


Myanmar's de facto leader Aung San Suu Kyi has said her government does not fear "international scrutiny" of its handling of the growing Rohingya crisis.

It was her first address to the country about the violence in northern Rakhine state that has seen more than 400,000 Rohingya Muslims cross into Bangladesh.

Ms Suu Kyi has faced heavy criticism for her response to the crisis.

What did Suu Kyi say in her the speech?

The Myanmar government does not use the term Rohingya - calling the group Bengali Muslims instead - and Ms Suu Kyi did not do so in her speech.

Delivering her address in a tone of measured defiance, she said she and her government "condemn all human rights violations and unlawful violence".

Among the key points:
She did not address allegations against the military, saying only that there had been "no armed clashes or clearance operations" since 5 September.
She said most Muslims had decided to stay in Rakhine and that indicated the situation may not be so severe.
She said she wanted to speak to both Muslims that had fled and those that had stayed to find out what was at the root of the crisis.
She said the government had made efforts in recent years to improve living conditions for the Muslims living in Rakhine: providing healthcare, education and infrastructure.
She also said that all refugees in Bangladesh would be able to return after a process of verification.


How was the speech received?

Ms Suu Kyi has overwhelming support in her home country, where she was a political prisoner for years before coming to power.

But her speech has been criticised internationally for failing to address the allegations of abuse by the military.

The BBC's Jonathan Head, who is in neighbouring Bangladesh, disputed the claim that there had been no clearance operations since 5 September, pointing out that he had seen villages being burned days after that date.

Amnesty International said Nobel Peace Prize winner Aung San Suu Kyi was "burying her head in the sand" by ignoring the abuses by the army.

"At times, her speech amounted to little more than a mix of untruths and victim blaming,"
the rights group's director for South East Asia and the Pacific, James Gomes, said in a statement.
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Now it's textbook denial on her part?
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Tamas

Quote from: Valmy on September 01, 2017, 07:13:16 PM
Why is Myanmar so hostile to the Muslims? Is this like if you are not Buddhist you are a threat to our pure cultural waters or something?

Because its a fucked up country and somebody must be blamed and they don't have Jews

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Quote from: Valmy on September 01, 2017, 07:13:16 PM
Why is Myanmar so hostile to the Muslims? Is this like if you are not Buddhist you are a threat to our pure cultural waters or something?

Just saw this a few minutes ago - it may be part of the explanation: https://www.buzzfeed.com/sheerafrenkel/fake-news-spreads-trump-around-the-world?utm_term=.qcWr6vBOx#.cj54dBZEk