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Started by Armyknife, July 11, 2009, 08:51:40 AM

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citizen k

It's like a soft ethnic cleansing.

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Quote from: Ed Anger on July 11, 2009, 05:05:44 PM
I want to be in the room when Grumbler is verbally abusing someone. It is a thing of beauty.

When he's in the room with the person he probably physically abuses them as well.
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Quote from: Razgovory on July 11, 2009, 05:08:55 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 11, 2009, 05:05:44 PM
I want to be in the room when Grumbler is verbally abusing someone. It is a thing of beauty.

When he's in the room with the person he probably physically abuses them as well.

Even better.
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Quote from: Razgovory on July 11, 2009, 05:08:55 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 11, 2009, 05:05:44 PM
I want to be in the room when Grumbler is verbally abusing someone. It is a thing of beauty.

When he's in the room with the person he probably physically abuses them as well.

:yeahright: The school board never managed to prove that.
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grumbler

Quote from: Viking on July 11, 2009, 07:26:24 PM
I wish there were a functioning ignore function.
There is one, if your brain is functioning.  You just ignore posters whose posts you think unworthy of your lifespan.

I have used this method with one poster here for a year or so, with great success.
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Queequeg

#27
Turks usually jump to defend Turkic-Muslim peoples from any kind of perceived threat with a special ferocity.  Probably has to do with a combination of rampant nationalism, an inferiority complex, misplaced feelings about the genocide and a lot of bad memories from the decline of the Ottoman Empire (say the Russian or general Christian mistreatment of Muslims in reconquered areas).

EDIT: Although, interestingly, they seem to forget how much we've helped Albanains and Bosnians in the last two decades, or that we let them invade, ethnically cleanse and colonize helped them become peace keepers in Cyprus.

For anybody curious, look up Iğdır Soykırım Anıt-Müzesi, the Igdir Genocide Monument and Museum, built to remember the massacres of Turks committed by Armenians.  It is within sight of Mount Ararat, interestingly enough.   
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
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Syt

Quote from: Queequeg on July 12, 2009, 12:39:21 AM
Turks usually jump to defend Turkic-Muslim peoples from any kind of perceived threat with a special ferocity.  Probably has to do with a combination of rampant nationalism, an inferiority complex, misplaced feelings about the genocide and a lot of bad memories from the decline of the Ottoman Empire

So they're like a Muslim version of Post-Soviet Russians?
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Queequeg

#29
Quote from: Syt on July 12, 2009, 12:43:55 AM
So they're like a Muslim version of Post-Soviet Russians?
Almost exactly.  Turkey and Russia are mirror images of each other; the same influences, very similar temperaments, both for good and ill.    I think the relationship modern Turkey has with the OE is also fantastically similar to the relationship modern Russia has with the USSR.  Though,  I have to say, building a monument to "genocide of Turks" right next to Ararat would be a little....belligerent even for Russia.  Like building a new monument to Beria in Smolensk to commemorate the brave Soviet soldiers who invaded Poland with Nazi Germany in 1939. 

Though I wouldn't really put that past Putin at this point, either. 
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."