Trains, Banks and Public/Private Ownership - Prev.Predict UK Gen.Election Result

Started by mongers, June 04, 2017, 05:18:02 PM

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What will be the size of Theresa May's majority in the Commons

150+ MPs
0 (0%)
101-149
0 (0%)
81-100
2 (5.9%)
51-80
4 (11.8%)
31-50
6 (17.6%)
16-30
5 (14.7%)
1-15
2 (5.9%)
Zero - (Even number of MPs)
1 (2.9%)
Minority conservative government
9 (26.5%)
Labour and other parties coalition
2 (5.9%)
Labour majority government
3 (8.8%)

Total Members Voted: 33

Zanza

The original opinion of the DUP regarding the single market:

Zanza

Quote from: Jacob on June 10, 2017, 12:18:37 AM
I was talking about interest rates. If they rise significantly, that will tend to lower the debt via inflation given the government's advantageous position.
:huh: Interest rates are typically rised to combat inflation. Quantitative easing is just an euphemism for starting inflation, but it never really took off. If the interest rates rise considerably, most government finances are toast.

garbon

It is a bit curious that Corbyn followers I've spoken to like that he talks about the right changes and wants to implement them quickly. However, when talk turns to Labour still not in charge despite how likeable he is and May is not, well you can't expect things to happen immediately.
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Tamas

I guess I should feel happy that the impotent political leaderships of recent years are pushing young ones to the far left instead of the far right, but I still dread the upcoming rule of Corbyn.

Solmyr

Really, in a modern democracy (ie not Venezuela), rule by the far left is much more preferable to rule by the far right. The left is going to spend all the money on things like health care and welfare benefits, while the right will spend it on military and police state. And the former will be much easier to get rid of than the latter if they fuck things up too much.

fromtia

Quote from: Jacob on June 09, 2017, 11:48:47 PM
I just voted "minority conservative government" just now :bowler:

Yes, a number of experts on languish seem to have voted the same way in the last 36 hours. Prescient. I voted for a substantial Conservative majority a week or two ago.  :wacko:
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Tamas

Quote from: Solmyr on June 10, 2017, 07:38:52 AM
Really, in a modern democracy (ie not Venezuela), rule by the far left is much more preferable to rule by the far right. The left is going to spend all the money on things like health care and welfare benefits, while the right will spend it on military and police state. And the former will be much easier to get rid of than the latter if they fuck things up too much.

Well, I agree on the general principle but not to the extremes. Also, I heavily disagree over ruinous welfare benefits being easier to get rid of.

Eddie Teach

Quote from: fromtia on June 10, 2017, 08:03:49 AM
Quote from: Jacob on June 09, 2017, 11:48:47 PM
I just voted "minority conservative government" just now :bowler:

Yes, a number of experts on languish seem to have voted the same way in the last 36 hours. Prescient. I voted for a substantial Conservative majority a week or two ago.  :wacko:

Mongers kinda screwed the poll up by listing a bunch of numbers so it seemed pointless to make an uneducated guess.
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celedhring

Quote from: Tamas on June 10, 2017, 08:27:41 AM
Quote from: Solmyr on June 10, 2017, 07:38:52 AM
Really, in a modern democracy (ie not Venezuela), rule by the far left is much more preferable to rule by the far right. The left is going to spend all the money on things like health care and welfare benefits, while the right will spend it on military and police state. And the former will be much easier to get rid of than the latter if they fuck things up too much.

Well, I agree on the general principle but not to the extremes. Also, I heavily disagree over ruinous welfare benefits being easier to get rid of.

I think he means that the far right will be harder to get rid of, after the aforementioned high military and police state spending.

Solmyr

Quote from: Tamas on June 10, 2017, 08:27:41 AM
Quote from: Solmyr on June 10, 2017, 07:38:52 AM
Really, in a modern democracy (ie not Venezuela), rule by the far left is much more preferable to rule by the far right. The left is going to spend all the money on things like health care and welfare benefits, while the right will spend it on military and police state. And the former will be much easier to get rid of than the latter if they fuck things up too much.

Well, I agree on the general principle but not to the extremes. Also, I heavily disagree over ruinous welfare benefits being easier to get rid of.

Can you give me an example of a modern democracy that has been ruined specifically by welfare benefits and/or universal healthcare?

Jacob

Quote from: fromtia on June 10, 2017, 08:03:49 AM
Yes, a number of experts on languish seem to have voted the same way in the last 36 hours. Prescient. I voted for a substantial Conservative majority a week or two ago.  :wacko:

That's the risk you run when you commit before you have all the facts.

Richard Hakluyt

I'm delighted by the increased turnout and the much greater participation by the younger voters. Hopefully the lesson is learned, get out and vote it does make a difference. At the next election the parties will have to take the opinions of the young far more seriously than in recent contests.

Tamas

Quote from: Solmyr on June 10, 2017, 10:49:52 AM
Quote from: Tamas on June 10, 2017, 08:27:41 AM
Quote from: Solmyr on June 10, 2017, 07:38:52 AM
Really, in a modern democracy (ie not Venezuela), rule by the far left is much more preferable to rule by the far right. The left is going to spend all the money on things like health care and welfare benefits, while the right will spend it on military and police state. And the former will be much easier to get rid of than the latter if they fuck things up too much.

Well, I agree on the general principle but not to the extremes. Also, I heavily disagree over ruinous welfare benefits being easier to get rid of.

Can you give me an example of a modern democracy that has been ruined specifically by welfare benefits and/or universal healthcare?

Well, in terms of universal suffrage etc Venezuela, for example, was one.

far left experiments get voted out before they could pan out, or they reach a non-democratic nature like Venezuela, so they can be conveniently dismissed.

I guess the UK before Thatcher is a good candidate. :P First western power having to resort to IMF loans to stay afloat.

11B4V

So, May just basically looks like a fool and out of touch after this. I'm gathering?
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fromtia

Quote from: 11B4V on June 10, 2017, 12:17:56 PM
So, May just basically looks like a fool and out of touch after this. I'm gathering?

That's putting it kindly. The fun has only just started though as she has now climbed into bed with a fringe political party whose main policy plank is hating Catholics. *puts huge bag of popcorn in microwave*
"Just be nice" - James Dalton, Roadhouse.