Forget Scots Independence - should Scotland join Canada?

Started by Barrister, April 06, 2017, 03:59:56 PM

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Quote from: viper37 on April 07, 2017, 12:32:28 PM
   
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Quote from: viper37 on April 07, 2017, 11:46:55 AM
Quote from: Zanza on April 06, 2017, 09:53:18 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 06, 2017, 03:59:56 PM
It would have substantially more independence as a Canadian province than it does now - and arguably more independence than it would as a independent member of the EU.
What is your argument why a Canadian province has more independence than the member states of the EU?
I don't know where he gets that, Canadian provinces have zero autonomy.  Whatever autonomy we have is what the Feds have decided we could have.

Not sure if you are serious or just your usual hyperbole

Jacob

Quote from: crazy canuck on April 07, 2017, 06:28:05 PM
Not sure if you are serious or just your usual hyperbole

viper37's hyperbole is always serious

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Quote from: crazy canuck on April 07, 2017, 06:28:05 PM
Quote from: viper37 on April 07, 2017, 11:46:55 AM
Quote from: Zanza on April 06, 2017, 09:53:18 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 06, 2017, 03:59:56 PM
It would have substantially more independence as a Canadian province than it does now - and arguably more independence than it would as a independent member of the EU.
What is your argument why a Canadian province has more independence than the member states of the EU?
I don't know where he gets that, Canadian provinces have zero autonomy.  Whatever autonomy we have is what the Feds have decided we could have.

Not sure if you are serious or just your usual hyperbole
There is no exclusive powers to the provinces, the Federal government is free to spend whatever money he wants, how he wants in any provincial field and stop making transfer payements (our taxes).
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Quote from: crazy canuck on April 07, 2017, 06:28:05 PM

Not sure if you are serious or just your usual hyperbole

I'll have you know that Viper and Grallon have heavily influenced my view on Canada.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: viper37 on April 07, 2017, 07:56:49 PM

There is no exclusive powers to the provinces...

You should re-read section 92 of the BNA Act, you know the one that sets out the exclusive powers of the Provinces.

Barrister

Quote from: crazy canuck on April 07, 2017, 10:21:00 PM
Quote from: viper37 on April 07, 2017, 07:56:49 PM

There is no exclusive powers to the provinces...

You should re-read section 92 of the BNA Act, you know the one that sets out the exclusive powers of the Provinces.

I was going to say...
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Zanza

Quote from: Barrister on April 07, 2017, 10:23:23 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 07, 2017, 10:21:00 PM
Quote from: viper37 on April 07, 2017, 07:56:49 PM

There is no exclusive powers to the provinces...

You should re-read section 92 of the BNA Act, you know the one that sets out the exclusive powers of the Provinces.

I was going to say...
You also suggested that these powers in the BNA somehow make Canadian provinces more independent than EU member states. How did you come to that statement?

crazy canuck

Quote from: Zanza on April 08, 2017, 12:05:33 AM
Quote from: Barrister on April 07, 2017, 10:23:23 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on April 07, 2017, 10:21:00 PM
Quote from: viper37 on April 07, 2017, 07:56:49 PM

There is no exclusive powers to the provinces...

You should re-read section 92 of the BNA Act, you know the one that sets out the exclusive powers of the Provinces.

I was going to say...
You also suggested that these powers in the BNA somehow make Canadian provinces more independent than EU member states. How did you come to that statement?

If I were to guess, my guess would be he was thinking that Provinces have exclusive jurisdiction over what could broadly be characterized as civil law matters - so labour laws, regulation of provincially regulated businesses - that sort of thing.


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crazy canuck

Quote from: The Brain on April 08, 2017, 08:57:57 AM
Can Canadian provinces unilaterally leave Canada?


Quebec has tried to obtain enough support within that province to do it.  Yes.

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Quote from: The Brain on April 08, 2017, 08:57:57 AM
Can Canadian provinces unilaterally leave Canada?

Didn't Quebec have a vote on that before?
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Quote from: crazy canuck on April 08, 2017, 08:59:30 AM
Quote from: The Brain on April 08, 2017, 08:57:57 AM
Can Canadian provinces unilaterally leave Canada?


Quebec has tried to obtain enough support within that province to do it.  Yes.

Does the rest of Canada agree that should Quebec clearly wish to leave, they would be allowed to do so without any recourse on the part of Canada proper?
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