Operation Enduring Nuremberg: The Trump Diaspora begins...con carne!

Started by CountDeMoney, February 21, 2017, 11:35:10 PM

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Syt

I've driven through the Nevada desert at night from Reno to Las Vegas  in American Truck Simulator.  :cool:  :Embarrass:
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Tonitrus

Quote from: The Brain on February 25, 2017, 02:19:28 AM
which suggests a Constitution-mandated police state.

Stop trying to teach the Constitution to the street punks.

PDH

Hell, on my best trips across Nevada was to look for work this past summer, I took I-80 from Laramie (leaving at 4pm) to the West Coast in one long haul - that was with a two hour snooze at the Beowawe rest stop.  I've done the drive many times, but crossing the western half of Nevada starting before dawn was quite nice.

The worst was crossing it in August in a black 1976 Impala with no a/c and a tendency to overheat.
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grumbler

Quote from: Tonitrus on February 25, 2017, 05:23:36 AM
Quote from: The Brain on February 25, 2017, 02:19:28 AM
which suggests a Constitution-mandated police state.

Stop trying to teach the Constitution to the street punks.

Street punks would have left out the "not" in
Quotenot preventing US citizens from leaving a plane that originated from another US city without presenting their papers seems to go against both the 4th and 5th Amendments
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jimmy olsen

Quote from: Tonitrus on February 25, 2017, 05:23:36 AM
Quote from: The Brain on February 25, 2017, 02:19:28 AM
which suggests a Constitution-mandated police state.

Stop trying to teach the Constitution to the street punks.

Excellent Running Man reference.  :cool:
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dps

Quote from: Syt on February 25, 2017, 05:13:00 AM
I've driven through the Nevada desert at night from Reno to Las Vegas  in American Truck Simulator.  :cool:  :Embarrass:

Have you ridden through the desert on a horse with no name?

DontSayBanana

Quote from: Barrister on February 24, 2017, 01:13:25 PM
They were border guards, who have (presumably) different powers and authorities.

I'm trying to think if this would be a problem in Canada, but I honestly don't know.  There is a duty to identify yourself to a peace officer (which is a broad category which includes both police and border services), but the question would be whether or not the border guard is acting "In the execution of their duty".

In the story that's making the rounds, ICE asked CBP to do spot checks on DL1583 because they suspected a deportee was on the flight, but that turned out not to be the case.  I suspect there's a collision with a slightly lesser-known story going on here: five states that aren't Real ID compliant: Washington, Montana, Minnesota, Missouri, and Maine. On paper, the TSA is supposed to stop accepting state-issued IDs from those states as proof of ID in 2018, but I would not be surprised if that date has unofficially moved up under the Trump administration, and travelers from those five states would most likely have to show passports as proof of identity.
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CountDeMoney

From the "Yay, We Turn Fucking With People Up to 11 Now" file.

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The Failing New York Times
Immigration Agents Discover New Freedom to Deport Under Trump
By NICHOLAS KULISH, CAITLIN DICKERSON and RON NIXON
FEB. 25, 2017

The Trump administration's far-reaching plan to arrest and deport vast numbers of undocumented immigrants has been introduced in dramatic fashion over the past month. And much of that task has fallen to thousands of ICE officers who are newly emboldened, newly empowered and already getting to work.

Gone are the Obama-era rules that required them to focus only on serious criminals. In Southern California, in one of the first major roundups during the Trump administration, officers detained 161 people with a wide range of felony and misdemeanor convictions, and 10 who had no criminal history at all.

"Before, we used to be told, 'You can't arrest those people,' and we'd be disciplined for being insubordinate if we did," said a 10-year veteran of the agency who took part in the operation. "Now those people are priorities again. And there are a lot of them here."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/25/us/ice-immigrant-deportations-trump.html

"Morale amongst our agents and officers has increased exponentially since the signing of the orders," the unions representing ICE and Border Patrol agents said in a joint statement after President Trump issued the executive orders on immigration late last month.


Quote"The discretion has come back to us; it's up to us to make decisions in the field," a 15-year veteran in California said. "We're trusted again."

Good grief. :rolleyes:


Syt

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Oexmelin

Que le grand cric me croque !

grumbler

Quote from: Oexmelin on February 26, 2017, 10:39:01 AM
Yup. Trump has found his armed thugs.

Who turn out to be the former Obama armed thugs, who were the former Bush armed thugs.  Who'da think it.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Syt on February 26, 2017, 03:12:26 AM
I hear they've ordered a new mural for their HQ.

I love how the native American with the peace pipe is tossed in with the rest of the "foreign hordes"  :lol:

CountDeMoney

Quote from: grumbler on February 26, 2017, 10:43:21 AM
Quote from: Oexmelin on February 26, 2017, 10:39:01 AM
Yup. Trump has found his armed thugs.

Who turn out to be the former Obama armed thugs, who were the former Bush armed thugs.  Who'da think it.

It's game on now, though. 

Oexmelin

Quote from: grumbler on February 26, 2017, 10:43:21 AM
Quote from: Oexmelin on February 26, 2017, 10:39:01 AM
Yup. Trump has found his armed thugs.

Who turn out to be the former Obama armed thugs, who were the former Bush armed thugs.  Who'da think it.

Anyone of passing knowledge of history?
Que le grand cric me croque !

Syt

Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 26, 2017, 11:18:34 AM
Quote from: Syt on February 26, 2017, 03:12:26 AM
I hear they've ordered a new mural for their HQ.

I love how the native American with the peace pipe is tossed in with the rest of the "foreign hordes"  :lol:

That's Bioshock Infinite for ya. It has a theme park display about Wounded Knee, too :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNUPIyXewR8

You might like the Boxer Rebellion display better, though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afYcnZ62Wso :P
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.