Operation Enduring Nuremberg: The Trump Diaspora begins...con carne!

[Admiral Yi]

Cornholios.  he he.  he he.  he he.

[Tonitrus]

Also, if hasn't already been mentioned, and as anyone who has driven from Arizona to/through Texas knows...CBP already checks your papers for just going from state to state.

[dps]

Once again dismissing the violation of US citizens' Constitutional rights.

Is asking for ID a violation of constitutional rights?

No, it's not.  Not allowing you to disembark or otherwise detaining you without probable cause if you refuse to comply would be, though.  Not 100% clear if that happened here.

[Admiral Yi]

Also, if hasn't already been mentioned, and as anyone who has driven from Arizona to/through Texas knows...CBP already checks your papers for just going from state to state.

How bizarre.

[The Brain]

Once again dismissing the violation of US citizens' Constitutional rights.

Is asking for ID a violation of constitutional rights?

No, it's not.  Not allowing you to disembark or otherwise detaining you without probable cause if you refuse to comply would be, though.  Not 100% clear if that happened here.

I'm confused. Which is it?

[dps]

Once again dismissing the violation of US citizens' Constitutional rights.

Is asking for ID a violation of constitutional rights?

No, it's not.  Not allowing you to disembark or otherwise detaining you without probable cause if you refuse to comply would be, though.  Not 100% clear if that happened here.

I'm confused. Which is it?

Not sure I understand the question.  Cops can always ask for your ID, but you're not obligated to comply with their request outside of certain situations--you can, in general, just tell them, "Fuck you, I don't have to show you shit" (not that I would advise doing that), and they can't detain you just for not showing ID.  In practice, I always let them see my ID (the only time I didn't, I was out for a jog and didn't have my wallet and ID with me), because why risk them deciding that you're an asshole and they're going to say that they thought they had probable cause to detain you?  I'd rather not be detained than be detained or otherwise be hassled and maybe being able to successfully sue later.

[viper37]

Ditto, which is why I'm attempting to tread carefully.

just like CdM, you have selective behavior issues?

[Tonitrus]

Once again dismissing the violation of US citizens' Constitutional rights.

Is asking for ID a violation of constitutional rights?

No, it's not.  Not allowing you to disembark or otherwise detaining you without probable cause if you refuse to comply would be, though.  Not 100% clear if that happened here.

I'm confused. Which is it?

Not sure I understand the question.  Cops can always ask for your ID, but you're not obligated to comply with their request outside of certain situations--you can, in general, just tell them, "Fuck you, I don't have to show you shit" (not that I would advise doing that), and they can't detain you just for not showing ID.  In practice, I always let them see my ID (the only time I didn't, I was out for a jog and didn't have my wallet and ID with me), because why risk them deciding that you're an asshole and they're going to say that they thought they had probable cause to detain you?  I'd rather not be detained than be detained or otherwise be hassled and maybe being able to successfully sue later.

I heard it is obligatory to carry/present ID on demand in NYC (maybe garbon can chime in if true).

[CountDeMoney]

Cops can always ask for your ID, but you're not obligated to comply with their request outside of certain situations--you can, in general, just tell them, "Fuck you, I don't have to show you shit" (not that I would advise doing that), and they can't detain you just for not showing ID.

Can just take you down to the district house and run your prints.  God knows how long that can take.

[Berkut]

Also, if hasn't already been mentioned, and as anyone who has driven from Arizona to/through Texas knows...CBP already checks your papers for just going from state to state.

That must be something new, because I've driven all over Arizona, and from Arizona to California and Colorado and New Mexico, and I was never once asked for my papers.

[Valmy]

Yeah I have driven from Tempe and back a couple times, back when I was visiting my sister at Berkut's favorite school. and nothing like that went on. But that was back in the pre-9/11 days so probably does not mean anything.

[Ed Anger]

If I had to drive from Cali to Texas, I'd blow my brains out near Santa Fe.

[CountDeMoney]

Yes, it was a simpler time then, long before 9/11 and the horrible actions all those Guatemalans committed that day.

[Valmy]

If I had to drive from Cali to Texas, I'd blow my brains out near Santa Fe.

The really horrible part was I-10 between El Paso and San Antonio.

[CountDeMoney]

If I had to drive from Cali to Texas, I'd blow my brains out near Santa Fe.

The really horrible part was I-10 between El Paso and San Antonio.

I see your El Paso and San Antonio, and raise you Rockville to Silver Spring.  Different distances, same fucking amount of time.  So eat me.