Should a former porn star be fired from her teaching job. Languish decides.

[viper37]

http://www.torontosun.com/2017/02/02/texas-teacher-resa-woodward-sacked-after-whistleblower-reveals-porn-past-report

I'm not sure why her being an ex porn star is legal reason to be fired from her current teaching job. Thoughts?

(PS--I've yet to look up her films, but I will.)

No she should not be fired for something non criminal that happenned before her years as teacher.

[HVC]

I used to read the sun. it was more convenient to read on the subway (the star is too "foldy" and ungainly). But then they put in wifi so I read stuff on my phone.

I used to work for the Winnipeg Sun.  My dad got me a job - total nepotism.

And they put in WiFi on your subway?  I am officially jealous.   My commute is half-underground, and half-aboveground, so I have to pull out my phone only when I'm halfway home.

Yeah, most stations have it now, but only stations so you have to time it to load your pages at the stops to read in the tunnels . Better than nothing though.

[Barrister]

I used to read the sun. it was more convenient to read on the subway (the star is too "foldy" and ungainly). But then they put in wifi so I read stuff on my phone.

I used to work for the Winnipeg Sun.  My dad got me a job - total nepotism.

And they put in WiFi on your subway?  I am officially jealous.   My commute is half-underground, and half-aboveground, so I have to pull out my phone only when I'm halfway home.

Yeah, most stations have it now, but only stations so you have to time it to load your pages at the stops to read in the tunnels . Better than nothing though.

Ah - we have that then.  I find it less that effective though.

[viper37]

Plus it'd be hard to be an authority figure to kids once they've all looked up your videos on line?

I don't see why.  Kids look at all kind of nasty stuff by themselves, much worst than fake lesbians making out in front of a camera.

If the subject comes, she can chose to discss about it, share her experience, talk of the downside of doing porn.  It might be a warning to young girls who could otherwise be tempted by prostitution or pornography as a way to make some easy money.  Better it comes from the horse mouth than from an old nun who never met a man.

[Barrister]

No. It's a stupid knee-jerk decision.

There is exactly zero evidence provided in the article that her former career impacted her abilities as a teacher in any way. Rather, she was "outed" by some busybody to the school board, apparently in revenge for her "outing" of a drunk driver to the cops.

In short, she is being "punished" via internet troll shaming for displaying civic mindedness and supporting the work of the police. A wonderful message for the kids!

That's not the argument being made.  Rather that, now that she has been outed, it will impact her performance.

It's hard to tell from a tabloid article, but they specifically cite a "good character" clause.

[Malthus]

No. It's a stupid knee-jerk decision.

There is exactly zero evidence provided in the article that her former career impacted her abilities as a teacher in any way. Rather, she was "outed" by some busybody to the school board, apparently in revenge for her "outing" of a drunk driver to the cops.

In short, she is being "punished" via internet troll shaming for displaying civic mindedness and supporting the work of the police. A wonderful message for the kids!

That's not the argument being made.  Rather that, now that she has been outed, it will impact her performance.

There is no evidence provided that it will impact her ability to teach in the future. Only supposition. Moreover, supposition based on some busybody making her former career generally known - given that she was only "outed" to the School Board. That the School Board then fired her and touted her porn star past as a reason of course made it generally known, but they didn't have to do that. 

In short, the allegation is that someone will take the time to tell the kids in her classes that she was a former porn star, and that because of this, she will no longer be capable of being an effective teacher. Neither of these events were certain to happen. It seems very silly to assert this as a reason for pre-emptively firing her.   

The alleged reason for her termination is a "good character" clause. It is just ironic that she is in this situation for, basically, showing good character *now*.

[Admiral Yi]

There is no evidence provided that it will impact her ability to teach in the future. Only supposition. Moreover, supposition based on some busybody making her former career generally known - given that she was only "outed" to the School Board. That the School Board then fired her and touted her porn star past as a reason of course made it generally known, but they didn't have to do that. 

In short, the allegation is that someone will take the time to tell the kids in her classes that she was a former porn star, and that because of this, she will no longer be capable of being an effective teacher. Neither of these events were certain to happen. It seems very silly to assert this as a reason for pre-emptively firing her.   

The alleged reason for her termination is a "good character" clause. It is just ironic that she is in this situation for, basically, showing good character *now*.

Of course there's no evidence provided.  She hasn't taught in the future yet.

[LaCroix]

she doesn't need to take the time to tell her students. her students will know now that it's public. how it affects her performance is students not respecting her. it's more difficult for a student to learn from a teacher she doesn't respect

[derspiess]

Just like the similar situation a couple years ago, I feel bad for her but she can't be as effective as a teacher with this hanging over her head.  Perhaps a more progressive school district in California would hire her.

[Barrister]

she doesn't need to take the time to tell her students. her students will know now that it's public. how it affects her performance is students not respecting her. it's more difficult for a student to learn from a teacher she doesn't respect

I don't know about that.  In high school there were teachers we didn't respect - but they were still teachers.  Maybe you snigger behind their back, but you still did what they told because they could still give you detention or give you a low grade.

You respect the position, not the person.

[LaCroix]

I don't know about that.  In high school there were teachers we didn't respect - but they were still teachers.  Maybe you snigger behind their back, but you still did what they told because they could still give you detention or give you a low grade.

You respect the position, not the person.

I'm willing to change it to "for some students, it's difficult for her to learn from a teacher she doesn't respect." but, I think it's true that for at least the vast majority of people, it's in some measure more difficult to learn from someone they don't respect.

[Berkut]

Look, if a teacher is ineffective because they are just not a very good teacher, or because they nobody respects them because they keep going on about how awesome Trump is, that is fine.

If there is a possibility that someone might not respect a woman because of something to do with sex, but only if the people responsible for firing her actually make that knowledge public, then clearly she needs to be fired, and said information made public as justification for the firing.

[MadImmortalMan]

I didn't respect any of my teachers, and none of them did porn. 

[LaCroix]

see barrister, berkut doesn't learn from people he doesn't respect. exhibit A 

[Syt]

I didn't respect any of my teachers, and none of them did porn. 

... as far as you know.