Whither Obamacare?

[CountDeMoney]

I predict that they will utterly fail in this area simply because they have no plan. Which is astounding since they have had seven years to come up with one.

The plan was never to have a plan.  You know better than that.

[Valmy]

The plan was never to have a plan.  You know better than that.

Well right. It already succeeded as a political plan but I meant they would fail to actually do anything to help healthcare. In fact I suspect they will make the situation worse.

I mean if you care about that kind of thing. They don't.

[CountDeMoney]

Do it early enough, and everybody will forget by the time the midterms roll around.  Or be dead. Either or.

[Valmy]

Do it early enough, and everybody will forget by the time the midterms roll around.  Or be dead. Either or.

They will just talk about how much kids today suck. College Students are all out there doing stupid shit. So vote for us.

[Ed Anger]

Do it early enough, and everybody will forget by the time the midterms roll around.  Or be dead. Either or.

They will just talk about how much kids today suck. College Students are all out there doing stupid shit. So vote for us.

VOTE OLD WHITE PEOPLE!

That could apply to both parties. 

[CountDeMoney]

Teh blacks are out to get ya.

[Syt]

[Valmy]

apparently Ted Cruz found that stunt hilarious.

[Grey Fox]

I expect that the next 4 years will be highlighted by a congress that cannot get anything done.

[Jacob]

So the senate voted to repeal Obamacare: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4641262/senate-votes-51-48-repeal-obamacare

Is this one last "let's repeal it before Trump is sworn in so it won't happen" hurrah, or is it a thing that'll go before the House of Representatives and then land on Trump's desk, so it might happen?

[Razgovory]

I fully expect to be told that the free market "replaces" Obamacare.

[CountDeMoney]

[grumbler]

Also, this article is written by a clown with no historical awareness.

(snip)

This is exactly how Henry Clay passed the Compromise of 1850. He broke it down into five different bills and had them passed seperately. Now, Paul Ryan sure as hell isn't half the Speaker Henry Clay was, but that's the argument the author should be making, not this particular strategy is ridiculous.

Also, this post was written by a clown with no historical awareness.

There is no parallel between the passage of the five elements of the Compromise of 1850 and what the Republicans propose to do.

All five elements of the Compromise were on the floor at the same time.  Clay and Douglas knew they couldn't get majority support from the three main parties for all of them at once, but could get the support of a (different) majority on each one.  So that's what they did.

There are not three disparate parties/blocs in the US congress right now, so claiming that the Clay/Douglas strategy would work (even if the Republicans actually had a plan to break down) is silly.

[grumbler]

I predict that they will utterly fail in this area simply because they have no plan. Which is astounding since they have had seven years to come up with one.

I think that this is entirely correct.  the Republicans must repeal Obama care:  it was at the center of their platform.  However, they never promised to replace it with anything that would work, and so never planned any replacement.  They'll put a band-aid on like changing the requirements for medicare slightly, jump on an aircraft carrier, and declare Mission Accomplished.

[Jacob]

I think that this is entirely correct.  the Republicans must repeal Obama care:  it was at the center of their platform.  However, they never promised to replace it with anything that would work, and so never planned any replacement.  They'll put a band-aid on like changing the requirements for medicare slightly, jump on an aircraft carrier, and declare Mission Accomplished.

How does the current repeal vote that just passed the senate play into this?