Whither Obamacare?

[viper37]

"There is no denying why he has made so many deals," Meadows said of Trump. "I thought I was a good dealmaker; I'm nothing compared to the president."

He thinks he is a good deal maker? The Freedom Caucus doesn't make deals, they are ideologues.

Apparently they want to roll back some base requirements, like coverage for emergency services.

Man, what assholes.

I don't understand all of this.

It's call being a good Christian.  A good Christian will make God's will on Earth.  God said poor will always be amongst us, therefore you must make sure there are always poor people otherwise you fail God.


Extrapolation from this quote

[Valmy]

Of course there are many other quotes bout how if you do not help the poor the Babylonians will carry your nation off into exile. Careful how you read your Bible there Christians 

[CountDeMoney]

Speaking of Christians...

Mulvaney: Americans upset with changes to essential services should help 'change the state that you live in'
By LOUIS NELSON 03/24/17 09:54 AM EDT

Americans upset that the Republican plan to repeal and replace Obamacare would cut requirements for so-called essential services like maternity care and addiction treatment should "figure out a way to change the state that you live in" if the bill ends up becoming law, Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney said Friday morning.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/obamacare-repeal-essential-services-alterations-236461

[Valmy]

Throw the State governments under the bus? Bold plan for the party that controls almost 3/5ths of them.

[viper37]

Of course there are many other quotes bout how if you do not help the poor the Babylonians will carry your nation off into exile. Careful how you read your Bible there Christians 

Apparently, rape and incest are God's will and should not be interfered with:
Link

I am wondering.  If rape and incest, both things that are criminal acts, are God's will and that's a reason to deny abortion, wouldn't it be at least as logical to stop punishing people who commit these acts because they are simply the instrument of God?  If I was an American rapist ('Od forbid I were a Mexican rapist, beause that would be really, really bad), why should I go to jail for exercising my religious freedom?

[Valmy]

That gets back to ridiculous statements like how Benjamin Franklin was defying God for inventing the lightning rod. To which he responded that then churches should tear off their roofs since hail was God's will as well.

Anyway I don't think you have to worry about radical shifts in law because of those kinds of claims. They have few adherents. Abortion just being wrong, full stop, on the other hand has plenty of support and not just from religious people.

[CountDeMoney]

Speaking of abortion, check out Der Furor's Twitter account today.

Losing this vote means the Freedom Caucus allows Planned Parenthood to win. So sad!

[Valmy]

Oh? I shall send Mark Meadows a 'I stand with Planned Parenthood' pin then.

[Grey Fox]

How many times will a AHCA bill be introduced until they get it thru?

5 more times?

[garbon]

How many times will a AHCA bill be introduced until they get it thru?

5 more times?

With that kind of posting, we'll see it passing shortly today.

[Barrister]

So from what I'm reading, they don't have the votes, and Ryan has told Trump they don't have the votes, but Trump is insisting on holding a vote anyways so he knows who is with him and who is against him. :shakeshead:

[Admiral Yi]

Someone upstream said if the vote fails then the blame shifts from Donald to Congress for failing to keep the campaign promise.

[alfred russel]

Someone upstream said if the vote fails then the blame shifts from Donald to Congress for failing to keep the campaign promise.

It seems fair to me. Since probably every republican ran against Obamacare, it really does make congressional republicans look like liars and incompetents to be unable to get anything through.

[Barrister]

Someone upstream said if the vote fails then the blame shifts from Donald to Congress for failing to keep the campaign promise.

Well sure.

But that's hardly a great strategy to publicly blame members of your own party when you'll need them to work with you next week for the tax cuts you're pushing for.  Any anything else on Trump's agenda.

[Admiral Yi]

Well sure.

But that's hardly a great strategy to publicly blame members of your own party when you'll need them to work with you next week for the tax cuts you're pushing for.  Any anything else on Trump's agenda.

I wasn't saying it's a great strategy.  Just pointing out an angle of the scam that isn't about creating a blacklist.