Medieval Memes: The far right’s new fascination with the Middle Ages

Started by Razgovory, January 02, 2017, 05:55:25 PM

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CountDeMoney

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January 03, 2017, 02:44:52 PM
Quote from: Jacob on January 03, 2017, 02:27:49 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on January 03, 2017, 11:49:01 AM
I took a medieval philosophy class years ago - 3 other people were in the class. All of them political and right-wing.  Turned out they were not so much interested in the history of philosophy but were convinced that Western culture took a bad turn with Descartes and were looking to revive medieval philosophy as a contemporary guide to action.

That's fascinating and revolting at the same time.

While the Age of Reason has, on occasion, been infatuated with itself to its own myopic detriment and subject to its occasional excesses, this is just plain scary.

The Minsky Moment

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January 03, 2017, 02:47:57 PM Last Edit: January 03, 2017, 02:49:39 PM by The Minsky Moment
Quote from: Jacob on January 03, 2017, 02:27:49 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on January 03, 2017, 11:49:01 AM
I took a medieval philosophy class years ago - 3 other people were in the class. All of them political and right-wing.  Turned out they were not so much interested in the history of philosophy but were convinced that Western culture took a bad turn with Descartes and were looking to revive medieval philosophy as a contemporary guide to action.

That's fascinating and revolting at the same time.

Joke was mostly on them.  For many centuries in the Latin West, the only work of Aristotle available was part of the Organon.  So Latin medieval philosophy was heavy on semantic logic.
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Razgovory

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January 03, 2017, 07:55:00 PM
What is so revolting about medieval philosophy?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Valmy

#18
January 03, 2017, 08:25:17 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on January 03, 2017, 07:55:00 PM
What is so revolting about medieval philosophy?

Maybe Jake is a Platonist.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Eddie Teach

#19
January 03, 2017, 08:29:41 PM
Wasn't Augustine?
To sleep, perchance to dream. But in that sleep of death, what dreams may come?

CountDeMoney

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January 03, 2017, 08:33:41 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on January 03, 2017, 08:29:41 PM
Wasn't Augustine?

Somehow I don't see the alt-right crusadertards embracing Augustine and Aquinas. :lol:

Valmy

#21
January 03, 2017, 08:33:58 PM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on January 03, 2017, 08:29:41 PM
Wasn't Augustine?

Only during his pagan days.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

The Minsky Moment

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January 03, 2017, 08:40:44 PM
The guys I'm talking about were paleo-cons for whom Aquinas is a more natural fit.  We didn't have alt right types back then, thank God.  I would presume to the extent they care about philosophy at all (doubtful) it would be some noxious mix of Nietzsche and Filmer, combined with a misreading of Hobbes.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Ed Anger

#23
January 03, 2017, 08:45:54 PM
I read the Strategikon.
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

CountDeMoney

#24
January 03, 2017, 09:13:57 PM
Nobody cares which Greek restaurant you got breakfast from, Ed.

Ed Anger

#25
January 03, 2017, 09:17:54 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 03, 2017, 09:13:57 PM
Nobody cares which Greek restaurant you got breakfast from, Ed.

Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

11B4V

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January 03, 2017, 09:20:35 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 03, 2017, 09:17:54 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 03, 2017, 09:13:57 PM
Nobody cares which Greek restaurant you got breakfast from, Ed.



Ouzo is good.
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"We've reached one of our phase lines after the firefight and it smells bad—meaning it's a little bit suspicious... Could be an amb—".

CountDeMoney

#27
January 03, 2017, 09:21:03 PM
OH IS THAT FETA

CountDeMoney

#28
January 03, 2017, 09:21:39 PM
Quote from: 11B4V on January 03, 2017, 09:20:35 PM
Ouzo is good.

Yeah, if you want to remove paint.  Or the lining of your esophagus.

crazy canuck

#29
January 03, 2017, 09:30:05 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on January 03, 2017, 08:40:44 PM
The guys I'm talking about were paleo-cons for whom Aquinas is a more natural fit.  We didn't have alt right types back then, thank God.  I would presume to the extent they care about philosophy at all (doubtful) it would be some noxious mix of Nietzsche and Filmer, combined with a misreading of Hobbes.

I remember those types.  Hobbes says its the war of all against all so let the best man win!
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