Ireland compensates woman forced to travel to Britain for an abortion

Started by garbon, December 01, 2016, 08:22:48 AM

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LaCroix

abortion laws seem to have reached a point of decent compromise given how much of the country oppose them.

Valmy

Quote from: LaCroix on December 02, 2016, 03:45:49 PM
abortion laws seem to have reached a point of decent compromise given how much of the country oppose them.

I am not sure what this means. A compromise would mean that something has been settled and agreed upon, at least temporarily. We may just happen to be in a place in the struggle where you feel things are in a good place but things are not staying here.
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LaCroix

it's a national compromise created by SCOTUS--a fundamental right that's restricted. not everyone is satisfied with that compromise, but that can happen with compromises.

I don't see how SCOTUS could do away with a fundamental right. It's never (iirc) happened before, and there's not much legal justification for it.

dps

Quote from: LaCroix on December 02, 2016, 04:00:05 PM
it's a national compromise created by SCOTUS--a fundamental right that's restricted. not everyone is satisfied with that compromise, but that can happen with compromises.

Exactly what kind of restrictions are permissible hasn't been settled at all.

QuoteI don't see how SCOTUS could do away with a fundamental right. It's never (iirc) happened before, and there's not much legal justification for it.

They didn't actually say that there is a fundamental right to abortion, exactly.


grumbler

Quote from: dps on December 02, 2016, 07:56:42 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on December 02, 2016, 04:00:05 PM
it's a national compromise created by SCOTUS--a fundamental right that's restricted. not everyone is satisfied with that compromise, but that can happen with compromises.

Exactly what kind of restrictions are permissible hasn't been settled at all.

QuoteI don't see how SCOTUS could do away with a fundamental right. It's never (iirc) happened before, and there's not much legal justification for it.

They didn't actually say that there is a fundamental right to abortion, exactly.

The last point is the key one.  The "right to abortion" isn't really a right to abortion, it is a right to privacy in making medical decisions where there is no compelling state interest.  There are all kinds of restrictions on the right to privacy.
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