Registration of Muslims in the US

[Jacob]

Just saw a report that Trump and his team are "mulling over" the Muslim registry. What do you think will happen on this issue during the Trump presidency. Stake your claims now gentlemen.

[Hamilcar]

Yet another campaign promise that will be dropped like a hot potato.

[11B4V]

Yet another campaign promise that will be dropped like a hot potato.

Yip

[Jacob]

Here's the current story: https://www.yahoo.com/news/immigration-hardliner-says-trump-team-preparing-plans-wall-015354176.html

An architect of anti-immigration efforts who says he is advising President-elect Donald Trump said the new administration could push ahead rapidly on construction of a U.S.-Mexico border wall without seeking immediate congressional approval.

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, who helped write tough immigration laws in Arizona and elsewhere, said in an interview that Trump's policy advisers had also discussed drafting a proposal for his consideration to reinstate a registry for immigrants from Muslim countries.

Kobach, who media reports say is a key member of Trump's transition team, said he had participated in regular conference calls with about a dozen Trump immigration advisers for the past two to three months.

Trump's transition team did not respond to requests for confirmation of Kobach's role. The president-elect has not committed to following any specific recommendations from advisory groups.

[Caliga]

Yet another campaign promise that will be dropped like a hot potato.

Yep.  He'll find a way to blame the Democrats or the Supreme Court or something.

[The Minsky Moment]

This particular genius doesn't seem to know the basics of federal appropriations (perhaps like our new President he tired of reading the constitution before reaching Article I), so I wouldn't put a ton of weight on his account.

[Barrister]

Yeah, you're missing an option for "never mentioned at all".  Trump even in the campaign backed off on a "muslim ban", instead limiting it to people from countries where terrorism 'is a problem'.

Besides, what is mentioned in the article is a lot less extreme than a "Muslim registry":

To implement Trump's call for "extreme vetting" of some Muslim immigrants, Kobach said the immigration policy group could recommend the reinstatement of a national registry of immigrants and visitors who enter the United States on visas from countries where extremist organizations are active.

Kobach helped design the program, known as the National Security Entry-Exit Registration System, while serving in Republican President George W. Bush's Department of Justice after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States by al Qaeda militants.

Under NSEERS, people from countries deemed "higher risk" were required to undergo interrogations and fingerprinting on entering the United States. Some non-citizen male U.S. residents over the age of 16 from countries with active militant threats were required to register in person at government offices and periodically check in.

So Trump proposes bringing back a program that had existed for several years until it was discontinued in 2011 as being redundant.  So it's probably not a useful idea, but probably not a massive violation of people's rights.

[Barrister]

Yet another campaign promise that will be dropped like a hot potato.

Yep.  He'll find a way to blame the Democrats or the Supreme Court or something.

This is Trump.  He doesn't need excuses.  He'll just pretend he never promised any such thing.

As I understand it the muslim immigration ban / ban on immigration from terrorist countries has disappeared from his transition team website.

[CountDeMoney]

I don't see how difficult it would be to register them anyway;  they're all at work, at school, paying taxes.  You know, like regular Americans.

[Richard Hakluyt]

One thing I hadn't realised until recently was the level of deportations under Obama :

http://blogs.reuters.com/data-dive/2015/02/25/tracking-obamas-deportation-numbers/

If Trump isn't careful he might manage to deport fewer people 

.............and, of course, immigrants from problematic countries tend to undergo vetting already.

.........and there is already, also, a great big fence for much of the border with Mexico https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico%E2%80%93United_States_barrier

[viper37]

Yeah, you're missing an option for "never mentioned at all".  Trump even in the campaign backed off on a "muslim ban", instead limiting it to people from countries where terrorism 'is a problem'.

I beleive he said "problematic countries".  If they happen to exclusively be countries were muslim are the majority, it's simply a coincidence.

[The Minsky Moment]

One thing I hadn't realised until recently was the level of deportations under Obama :

http://blogs.reuters.com/data-dive/2015/02/25/tracking-obamas-deportation-numbers/

If Trump isn't careful he might manage to deport fewer people 

No joke there- is he is at all serious about the federal hiring freeze it's very unlikely he'll hit those numbers.

[Richard Hakluyt]

One thing I hadn't realised until recently was the level of deportations under Obama :

http://blogs.reuters.com/data-dive/2015/02/25/tracking-obamas-deportation-numbers/

If Trump isn't careful he might manage to deport fewer people 

No joke there- is he is at all serious about the federal hiring freeze it's very unlikely he'll hit those numbers.

I'm only laughing because it is preferable to crying.

[alfred russel]

It wouldn't be bad if Trump pushed for something both extreme and really bad to start off, just to destroy any honeymoon and effectively nullify his control of congress (vulnerable members may be registered GOP, but will be reluctant to follow a deeply unpopular president).

But I am not sure Muslim registration or immigration bans would be viewed by the public as such.

[CountDeMoney]

No joke there- is he is at all serious about the federal hiring freeze it's very unlikely he'll hit those numbers.

The agency I am at had their leadership Come To Jesus meeting with the Big Cheeses on Monday AM: come Inauguration Day, immediate hiring freeze across the entire USG except for defense, public safety and public health--just like the Trump campaign said.

What the campaign didn't say is that it is planned for four years.