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Started by Martinus, November 05, 2016, 01:23:36 AM

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Malthus

Quote from: Martinus on November 14, 2016, 06:40:53 AM
Ok, so I gotta say I am humbled by how many things I didn't know.

For example, I have never heard about the Aga Khans and their Imamate before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aga_Khan_IV

They seem like a template for what modern Islam should look like.

Edit: And it's super cool that he is (at least apocryphally) both a direct descendent of Muhammad and the Old Man of the Mountain.  :lol:

There's a museum in Toronto built by this sect (the "Aga Khan Museum"), and quite a good one, too. I've been there twice.

https://www.agakhanmuseum.org/

Not one mention is made in that place of the medieval "Assassins", though.  ;)
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Syt

Aga Khan was pretty cool. I liked her song "I feel for you" best. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX9E44mClKs
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Martinus

Quote from: Malthus on November 14, 2016, 02:01:39 PM
Quote from: Martinus on November 14, 2016, 06:40:53 AM
Ok, so I gotta say I am humbled by how many things I didn't know.

For example, I have never heard about the Aga Khans and their Imamate before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aga_Khan_IV

They seem like a template for what modern Islam should look like.

Edit: And it's super cool that he is (at least apocryphally) both a direct descendent of Muhammad and the Old Man of the Mountain.  :lol:

There's a museum in Toronto built by this sect (the "Aga Khan Museum"), and quite a good one, too. I've been there twice.

https://www.agakhanmuseum.org/

Not one mention is made in that place of the medieval "Assassins", though.  ;)

Whitewashing. :P

Martinus

Here's a cool clip about him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPAU-dxe1ow

I haven't realised his mother was Rita Hayworth. It's really fascinating - I kinda feel somewhat foolish not to have ever heard of him before - have you guys (other than Malthus) heard of him?

He was also quite hot as a young man. :P

The Minsky Moment

I had an Ismaili friend in school.  They are one of the most significant of the non-Twelver Shi'a sects.
The Aga Khans are not exactly obscure; they regularly get mentioned on the richest so-and-so lists and their foundation is a big player.
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The Brain

Quote from: Martinus on November 14, 2016, 02:35:31 PM
Here's a cool clip about him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPAU-dxe1ow

I haven't realised his mother was Rita Hayworth. It's really fascinating - I kinda feel somewhat foolish not to have ever heard of him before - have you guys (other than Malthus) heard of him?

He was also quite hot as a young man. :P

Heard of Aga Khan? No never ever. Of course not, and I'm mildly offended by the question.
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celedhring

His foundation has sponsored a bunch of exhibits about Muslim culture in Spain, he's also got quite a few Spanish awards and commendations. I think he had a bit of a friendship with King Juan Carlos so he's somewhat known in Spain I'd say.

Agelastus

Quote from: Martinus on November 14, 2016, 02:35:31 PM
Here's a cool clip about him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPAU-dxe1ow

I haven't realised his mother was Rita Hayworth. It's really fascinating - I kinda feel somewhat foolish not to have ever heard of him before - have you guys (other than Malthus) heard of him?

He was also quite hot as a young man. :P

Yes.

But then the Aga Khans have had connections to Britain from the time of the Raj.

Rita Hayworth was his stepmother, by the way - his mother was the daughter of a British peer.
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