2017 impeachment - because it's never too early

[CountDeMoney]

Cluster Fuck

Oh, it's just starting, man.

[11B4V]

Cluster Fuck

Oh, it's just starting, man.

Greatest reality show on earth.

[Admiral Yi]

Millions of votes remain uncounted.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/no-voter-turnout-wasnt-way-down-from-2012/

If millions of votes are still uncounted, why are they not talking about overturning the result?  Are they all in California?

[jimmy olsen]

Millions of votes remain uncounted.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/no-voter-turnout-wasnt-way-down-from-2012/

If millions of votes are still uncounted, why are they not talking about overturning the result?  Are they all in California?

Mostly mail ballots on the West Coast, yeah.

[CountDeMoney]

Cluster Fuck

Oh, it's just starting, man.

Greatest reality show on earth.

It's no Hardcore Pawn.  Not enough Jews yelling at each other.  Especially not with Stormfront Bannon around.

[Zanza]

I have never followed such a transition before and am surprised there are 4000 political jobs to fill. At what level of hierarchy does the career civil service take over in the administration? Or do these 4000 jobs also include non-management positions like experts or specialists?

[CountDeMoney]

I have never followed such a transition before and am surprised there are 4000 political jobs to fill. At what level of hierarchy does the career civil service take over in the administration? Or do these 4000 jobs also include non-management positions like experts or specialists?

These are the presidential political appointments that drive administration policy down the verticals in government.

Here, something that explains it, with really nifty interactives--

http://presidentialtransition.org/blog/posts/160316_help-wanted-4000-appointees.php

Actually, you should explore the entire website.  Shows you what a monumental task it is.  And why the United States is totally fucked with this moron.

I heard today that the Trump people haven't even called State, Defense or the CIA yet.  Tick, tock, dumbasses.

[Admiral Yi]

I have never followed such a transition before and am surprised there are 4000 political jobs to fill. At what level of hierarchy does the career civil service take over in the administration? Or do these 4000 jobs also include non-management positions like experts or specialists?

It goes pretty far down.  I've worked in two agencies, the Bureau of Export Administration in Commerce, and the Rural Housing Administration in Agriculture.  Both were smallish shops, guestimating around 60-100 at BXA and 40 or so in the DC office of RHA (more in state field offices).  In each the Undersecretary and the Deputy Undersecretary were political, plus the press guy at BXA and the Congressional Relations guy at RHA (this guy had absolutely nothing to do).  The guys I worked directly for at BXA was a political Assistant Deputy Undersecretary.  He thought he might be the only person in the federal government with that title. I would say the highest civil service guy in each department is the budget guy, the personnel guy, and the inspector general.  And of course around half of ambassadors are political.

[11B4V]

This is going to be priceless.

[CountDeMoney]

Here, something that explains it, with really nifty interactives--

http://presidentialtransition.org/blog/posts/160316_help-wanted-4000-appointees.php

What a great interactive--

Number of Presidential Appointments for the American Battlefield Monuments Commission? 12.
Number of Presidential Appointments for the Arctic Research Commission?  7.
Number of Presidential Appointments for the African Development Foundation?  Zero.

Typical.

[derspiess]

Maybe we don't need all that.

[CountDeMoney]

You can bring it up with the Grand Dragon at the next rally, Cleetus.

[alfred russel]

I mean, it's certainly a hell of a lot more than in 2000.  Anyway, it obviously reflects a value judgment, and my previous assertion of "two million" may be off by about a factor of two (though they are still counting).  And yet, speaking personally, I'd nevertheless consider 800,000 or so people to be "a lot."  (It was still "a lot" at Stalingrad, right?)

The gap is over a million now and still climbing. DGuller is going to have to eat his words.

http://time.com/4572295/hillary-clinton-popular-vote-lead/

What words?

Sorry, I mixed you up with Dorsey

http://languish.org/forums/index.php/topic,9807.msg1033747.html#msg1033747

Tim, I'm not saying this to troll or to insult. You have been wrong about basically everything, starting with the spelling in your thread titles, and are just compounding it with getting me mixed up with DGuller. Yes I am wrong from time to time, as are other posters, but you in particular have no room to ever trash talk about someone "having to eat their words". If wrong statements were things that needed to be eaten, your mouth would be permanently so full that you could never get another word out.

In this particular case, I made a straight up offer to you, based on things that you were bringing to the forum. If Hillary ends up with over 50% of the popular vote, or her vote total exceeds Trump's by 2m, I will not post for 2 months. If neither of these happen, you will not post for 1 month and when you come back will post a mea culpa that you are a dumbass.

For days you have declined to answer on my proposal, and are now trash talking that I am going to "eat my words" while Hillary is still well short of meeting either criteria. Basically: either man up and take the deal, or quit your chickenshit trash talk about it.

[viper37]

The notion he's getting at, I think, is that Clinton would've been vindictive against any challenger.  Which I would not call implausible.

depends on how it goes.
If you keep saying she's just as bad as Trump, call her a witch, keep spreading rumours and conspiracy theories, yes, she might be vindictive.
If you keep attacking her while you have zero chance of winning after half the primaries are done, yes, she might be vindictive.

If you do relatively well, engage in reasonable debate, then, when it seems clear that you're not gonna win, fold, and call for your supporters to rally behind her, without any hesitation, I think there's a good chance she will like you.  She seems like a reasonable carreer politician, as good or bad as most others.

[viper37]

I heard today that the Trump people haven't even called State, Defense or the CIA yet.  Tick, tock, dumbasses.

he could always ask Obama to rule for a couple more months...