2017 impeachment - because it's never too early

Started by DGuller, November 11, 2016, 10:44:48 PM

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DGuller

The 2016 elections are over, and GOP has everything it could have ever dreamed of.  Except a reliable rubber stamp in the White House.  Who knows what Trump will really do?  Probably not even Trump.

So, how long before the knives are out, and GOP establishment conspires to replace Trump with Pence?  We all know the pretext will be there to remove Trump from office, but will there be a political will?

I bet there will be, as soon as Trump approval ratings take their first dive.  I bet there are already a number of Trump voters wearing their best Chris Christie face, and that number will only increase with time.  It will be risky to go against the mob, but so is having Trump in charge when you have a 2-4 year window to implement what you always wanted to implement and entrench it for many decades.

Berkut

From a strictly policy standpoint, Trump is actually the least scary Republican in the lot, since he isn't really a Republican at all.
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Valmy

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Thinking about the future I am wondering if the election and what follows might destroy Ted Cruz's support. He might be vulnerable to being primaried. I am watching carefully. There are several prominent but more acceptable Republicans are in this state who might want his job if so...

Interesting.

But Trump is not being impeached unless whatever he needs to be impeached for leads to a Democratic victory in 2018.
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Fate

Dude, you know they won't replace Cruz with someone better. I bet you it'll be that fraud radio talk show host who changed his name and then became Lt. Governor.

Senator Dan Patrick.

Valmy

Quote from: Fate on November 11, 2016, 11:07:21 PM
Dude, you know they won't replace Cruz with someone better. I bet you it'll be that fraud radio talk show host who changed his name and then became Lt. Governor.

Senator Dan Patrick.

They can even replace him with somebody worse. Just somebody less dangerous. Dan Patrick isn't going to go on any damn fool crusades.
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Quote from: Berkut on November 11, 2016, 10:49:44 PM
From a strictly policy standpoint, Trump is actually the least scary Republican in the lot, since he isn't really a Republican at all.

Domestically probably, though it's hard to tell.

I'm a hell of a lot more worried about him tearing up our longstanding alliances and setting the world on fire though.
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MadBurgerMaker

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Quote from: Fate on November 11, 2016, 11:07:21 PMSenator Dan Patrick.

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Admiral Yi

He'll have to do something in office to decisively shift public opinion against him.  That's what impeachment basically is, a popularity contest.

Legbiter

Quote from: Berkut on November 11, 2016, 10:49:44 PM
From a strictly policy standpoint, Trump is actually the least scary Republican in the lot, since he isn't really a Republican at all.

Yeah he's more like a New York Democrat who flayed the GOP and is now wearing it as a skin suit.
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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Valmy on November 11, 2016, 10:55:41 PM
Thinking about the future I am wondering if the election and what follows might destroy Ted Cruz's support. He might be vulnerable to being primaried. I am watching carefully. There are several prominent but more acceptable Republicans are in this state who might want his job if so...

Interesting.

Well, considering how Cruz is being considered as a potential Supreme Court nominee, he may not have to worry about being primaried. :yeah:


QuoteBut Trump is not being impeached unless whatever he needs to be impeached for leads to a Democratic victory in 2018.

Impeachment.  :lol:  Niggas, please.

HisMajestyBOB

The House votes to impeach Trump, and the Senate Democrats are forced to vote against convicting him in order to avoid a Pence presidency (and also because Trump is willing to work with them on infrastructure and stuff, I guess). As a result, Dem turnout is much lower in 2018 because of disgust and the GOP gains a super-majority of seats in the Senate as well as picking up more states.
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Valmy

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on November 12, 2016, 12:13:20 PM
The House votes to impeach Trump, and the Senate Democrats are forced to vote against convicting him in order to avoid a Pence presidency (and also because Trump is willing to work with them on infrastructure and stuff, I guess). As a result, Dem turnout is much lower in 2018 because of disgust and the GOP gains a super-majority of seats in the Senate as well as picking up more states.

I don't think the Dems would do that. Their base would murder them.
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DGuller

Quote from: Valmy on November 12, 2016, 01:05:20 PM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on November 12, 2016, 12:13:20 PM
The House votes to impeach Trump, and the Senate Democrats are forced to vote against convicting him in order to avoid a Pence presidency (and also because Trump is willing to work with them on infrastructure and stuff, I guess). As a result, Dem turnout is much lower in 2018 because of disgust and the GOP gains a super-majority of seats in the Senate as well as picking up more states.

I don't think the Dems would do that. Their base would murder them.
Yeah, I think that's what makes impeachment at the very least remotely possible.  One party may not want to back Trump, and the other party would just find it impossible to back Trump (unless Trump openly allies himself with Democrats at the first sign of GOP uprising).

CountDeMoney

Donald J. Trump would merely take impeachment, ball it up and throw it right back.  He would sue everybody.

saskganesh

I think that even if the GOP has good cause and opportunity to dump Trump, a sizable portion of his base will remain loyal, no matter what.  I think there would be some violent reactions.
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