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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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The Minsky Moment

Bessent, Rubio, Senate Republicans are all going in front of cameras and treating this Greenland insanity like an ordinary exercise of foreign policy and not the genuine 25th Amendment moment it is. 

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HVC

Which begs the question, are all the GOP cowards, idiots, or in on it?
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Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Grey Fox

American exceptionalism is a very strong force and state of mind. So, idiots.
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Oexmelin

While I think the cowardice of American Senators and Representatives is, indeed, of an exceptional sort considering all the privileges they enjoy, I think we collectively are not in a time of bravery. So many of our bureaucratic routines, to me, seem aimed at diffusing responsibility so widely as to hedge against any form of accountability in decision-making.
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Jacob

Quote from: Oexmelin on January 19, 2026, 07:14:51 PMWhile I think the cowardice of American Senators and Representatives is, indeed, of an exceptional sort considering all the privileges they enjoy, I think we collectively are not in a time of bravery. So many of our bureaucratic routines, to me, seem aimed at diffusing responsibility so widely as to hedge against any form of accountability in decision-making.

Soon - with the power of AI - that diffusion of accountability will increase exponentially!

HVC

I mean a hallucinating AI overlord couldn't be worse then the current US government, could it?
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Oexmelin

Quote from: Jacob on January 19, 2026, 07:16:30 PMSoon - with the power of AI - that diffusion of accountability will increase exponentially!

Yep. And it's one of my great fears - as it will exacerbate one of the worst of our current traits. Accountability is easier when you have strong social relations, as courage can't be so extraordinary as to be extremely rare. Neither strong social relations, nor the desire to own up based on principles seem to be in abundant supply these days.
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Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: HVC on January 19, 2026, 06:26:10 PMWhich begs the question, are all the GOP cowards, idiots, or in on it?
Yes

crazy canuck

Quote from: Oexmelin on January 19, 2026, 07:14:51 PMWhile I think the cowardice of American Senators and Representatives is, indeed, of an exceptional sort considering all the privileges they enjoy, I think we collectively are not in a time of bravery. So many of our bureaucratic routines, to me, seem aimed at diffusing responsibility so widely as to hedge against any form of accountability in decision-making.

Couldn't disagree more. You are completely discounting the bravery of large numbers of Americans who resigned from their positions.

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In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

Oexmelin

Obviously, there are going to be some fine examples of courage - there always is. But not nearly enough widespread, not nearly enough ordinary, for the situation and the world we live in.
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Oexmelin

Que le grand cric me croque !

viper37

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crazy canuck

Quote from: Oexmelin on Today at 08:45:09 AMObviously, there are going to be some fine examples of courage - there always is. But not nearly enough widespread, not nearly enough ordinary, for the situation and the world we live in.

The problem is not a lack of bravery of career civil servants.  The problem is those people have been replaced by sycophantic followers of Trump.

You do a great disservice by attributing a lack of bravery to a group of people who were clearly brave and as a result lost their jobs:

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In several surveys, the overwhelming first choice for what makes Canada unique is multiculturalism. This, in a world collapsing into stupid, impoverishing hatreds, is the distinctly Canadian national project.

The Brain

Quote from: HVC on January 19, 2026, 06:26:10 PMWhich begs the question, are all the GOP cowards, idiots, or in on it?

A person who is still a Republican is scum.
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grumbler

Hard to argue with the "accessory to the crime" charge against Republicans (and some Democrats).
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