What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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HVC

Seeing how the checks and balances don't actually seem to check or balance it's surprising this didn't happen sooner. Guess 200 plus years of luck?
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Admiral Yi

You don't heckle the president during the State of the Union so you can reserve the right to criticize people who do so on principle.

mongers

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 05, 2025, 06:00:37 PMYou don't heckle the president during the State of the Union so you can reserve the right to criticize people who do so on principle.

Do You?
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HVC

The problem is that when one team is playing by the rules and the other isn't then the rule followers lose.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Valmy

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 05, 2025, 06:00:37 PMYou don't heckle the president during the State of the Union so you can reserve the right to criticize people who do so on principle.

I mean we put up with their people heckling Biden and Obama and didn't do anything. Our guy gets escorted from the chamber.

Personally I think the Democrats just should have boycotted the speech to protest his extra-Constitutional abuses. A half empty chamber would have sent a stronger message than those stupid little signs they were holding.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: HVC on March 05, 2025, 06:09:19 PMThe problem is that when one team is playing by the rules and the other isn't then the rule followers lose.

Sure.  This is similar to the argument Neil was making. 

I personally think Trump has wrapped up all the votes of people who don't give a fuck about principles and abandoning principles will not pick up any net votes.  But I suppose reasonable people could disagree.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: HVC on March 05, 2025, 06:09:19 PMThe problem is that when one team is playing by the rules and the other isn't then the rule followers lose.

Sure.  This is similar to the argument Neil was making. 

I personally think Trump has wrapped up all the votes of people who don't give a fuck about principles and abandoning principles will not pick up any net votes.  But I suppose reasonable people could disagree.

Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

mongers

So Pete Hegseth (Sp?) is a fan of Crusader King sII.  :hmm:
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Admiral Yi

Hegspeth I think.

I googled and seems it's Scandi.

Valmy

Quote from: grumbler on March 04, 2025, 07:41:01 PM
Quote from: Valmy on March 04, 2025, 07:29:36 PMWell this is my source: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/

There could be other polls I am not seeing. But I am eager for good news from somewhere.

Mine was the same source an hour earlier.  The +5 Emerson poll flipped the ratio, but even the updated one has him positive by only one-tenth of one percent.

Ok looks like he is barely underwater now. We will see if his little propaganda speech gives him a bump.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Razgovory

So if Democrats win back the house in 2027, will it actually matter?  Trump appears to be usurping the power of Congress.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

HisMajestyBOB

Back in... I think it was 2016 or 2018, I was following the political news in Venezuela. Maduro was President and dictatorial, but there were still elections and despite Maduro's shenanigans, the opposition managed to win control of the legislature. They might have even had a slim supermajority. There therefore seemed to be some room for optimism that democracy could prevail.

Unfortunately for them, Maduro had control of the courts and no respect for rule of law. Each action by the legislature was nullified by the courts and the President. In response, the opposition organized public protests. These were generally scheduled for a few hours during the day, and consisted of marchers banging pots and pans before going home at the scheduled time. In the end, the opposition failed to live up to the moment and Maduro still rules Venezuela as a dictator.

I see us going down the same road if the Democrats don't pull their heads out of their asses. Unfortunately, it is increasingly looking like this will not be the time to play nice or by the rules. Hopefully I'm wrong, and we basically wake up in 2029 as if from bad dream. But I'm not very optimistic.
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