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Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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CountDeMoney

Quote from: Barrister on January 28, 2025, 05:44:08 PMThere can be a role for buyouts, and I'm open to the idea that there's room for a reduction in headcount in the US federal government.

But a blanket offer of buyouts is just fucking stupid until you know what cuts you want to make.  You could get half of some really vital workers taking the buyout, and almost none of the most useless workers taking them.

You are an absolute fucking moron shill, and I hope a large North American predatory mammal rips your fucking head off.

Razgovory

Quote from: viper37 on January 28, 2025, 04:54:42 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on January 28, 2025, 04:45:31 PMWhy stab stupid people, when you can stab people who knew what would happen and maliciously let it happen anyway.  People who wanted to punish this country because it would not indulge their sectarian and racial hatreds. :)
Ah, you're picking the path of least resistance, the people you already hate. :)

Good to know you're not really different. :)
You are very weird.  You are upset that I don't like bad people, and instead want me to go after people like you, right-wing nationalists.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Neil

Quote from: viper37 on January 28, 2025, 05:50:21 PMCalExit might become a reality after all.
There's no Clarity Act in the US.  There's no provision for a legal exit from the United States, and a history of it being strictly forbidden.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

HisMajestyBOB

On the other hand, how many Federal workers actually believe the Trump admin will make good on those payments?
Three lovely Prada points for HoI2 help

viper37

Quote from: Razgovory on January 28, 2025, 07:31:51 PM
Quote from: viper37 on January 28, 2025, 04:54:42 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on January 28, 2025, 04:45:31 PMWhy stab stupid people, when you can stab people who knew what would happen and maliciously let it happen anyway.  People who wanted to punish this country because it would not indulge their sectarian and racial hatreds. :)
Ah, you're picking the path of least resistance, the people you already hate. :)

Good to know you're not really different. :)
You are very weird.  You are upset that I don't like bad people, and instead want me to go after people like you, right-wing nationalists.
I would disagree they are people like me.  I have nothing in common with right wing ultra-religious people bent on ethnic cleansing and political violence.  You on the other end...
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

viper37

Quote from: Neil on January 28, 2025, 08:16:51 PM
Quote from: viper37 on January 28, 2025, 05:50:21 PMCalExit might become a reality after all.
There's no Clarity Act in the US.  There's no provision for a legal exit from the United States, and a history of it being strictly forbidden.
I know, I know.  :)

But as it is now, everything is in chaos.

Firing all Federal workers likely mean DoD workers too.  That means a cripple US Army, Navy and Airforce.  Who's gonna stop the seceding States this time?
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

viper37

Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 28, 2025, 06:32:43 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 28, 2025, 05:44:08 PMThere can be a role for buyouts, and I'm open to the idea that there's room for a reduction in headcount in the US federal government.

But a blanket offer of buyouts is just fucking stupid until you know what cuts you want to make.  You could get half of some really vital workers taking the buyout, and almost none of the most useless workers taking them.

You are an absolute fucking moron shill, and I hope a large North American predatory mammal rips your fucking head off.
Calm down.

Buying out the contract of an excess workforce can be a thing without referring to an extreme shutdown like your moronic President is doing.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

viper37

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on January 28, 2025, 08:18:32 PMOn the other hand, how many Federal workers actually believe the Trump admin will make good on those payments?
I've read that by law, compensations can't be higher than 25k$.  Don't know if that's true.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Grey Fox

Quote from: viper37 on January 28, 2025, 08:36:36 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 28, 2025, 06:32:43 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 28, 2025, 05:44:08 PMThere can be a role for buyouts, and I'm open to the idea that there's room for a reduction in headcount in the US federal government.

But a blanket offer of buyouts is just fucking stupid until you know what cuts you want to make.  You could get half of some really vital workers taking the buyout, and almost none of the most useless workers taking them.

You are an absolute fucking moron shill, and I hope a large North American predatory mammal rips your fucking head off.
Calm down.


Sure, he gets the benevolent BB.  <_<
Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

Valmy

Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 28, 2025, 06:32:43 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 28, 2025, 05:44:08 PMThere can be a role for buyouts, and I'm open to the idea that there's room for a reduction in headcount in the US federal government.

But a blanket offer of buyouts is just fucking stupid until you know what cuts you want to make.  You could get half of some really vital workers taking the buyout, and almost none of the most useless workers taking them.

You are an absolute fucking moron shill, and I hope a large North American predatory mammal rips your fucking head off.

Damn.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Razgovory

Quote from: viper37 on January 28, 2025, 08:29:55 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on January 28, 2025, 07:31:51 PM
Quote from: viper37 on January 28, 2025, 04:54:42 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on January 28, 2025, 04:45:31 PMWhy stab stupid people, when you can stab people who knew what would happen and maliciously let it happen anyway.  People who wanted to punish this country because it would not indulge their sectarian and racial hatreds. :)
Ah, you're picking the path of least resistance, the people you already hate. :)

Good to know you're not really different. :)
You are very weird.  You are upset that I don't like bad people, and instead want me to go after people like you, right-wing nationalists.
I would disagree they are people like me.  I have nothing in common with right wing ultra-religious people bent on ethnic cleansing and political violence.  You on the other end...
You have some perverse desire to see these guys as "ultra-religious", which doesn't describe the majority of them at all.  They are, however, American and English-speaking.  And that is where your have a problem.  If Trump and his crew were Francophones, you'd be onboard.  And ethic-cleansing, you really seem on board with that.  You may be big on supporting Islamic fundamentalists overseas, but you are much, much less keen on them in your own country.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Grey Fox

Large predatory mammal in N.America is a pretty small list.

The larger Bears;
Mountain Lions.
Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

The Minsky Moment

Quote from: Oexmelin on January 28, 2025, 05:47:54 PMIt's only stupid if you want a functioning government. If you want to scuttle government, so that your friends' businesses can provide that service, or are no longer bound by regulations that can no longer be enforced, undermining government both through useless expenditures and loss of capacity is a great idea.

The sea-steading tech bros are in the ascendant.

Take a Venn diagram and find the intersection of those people who thought that both Snowcrash and the Handmaid's Tale were intended to depict aspirational utopias.  That mentality is now driving the federal executive bus.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

Razgovory

If you want to know what the Tech-bros want, read stuff by Curtis Yarvin.  He's Peter Theil's pet philosopher.  It's neither Handmaid's tale or Snow Piercer.  It's Cyberpunk with kings.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: Razgovory on January 29, 2025, 01:28:55 AMIf you want to know what the Tech-bros want, read stuff by Curtis Yarvin.  He's Peter Theil's pet philosopher.  It's neither Handmaid's tale or Snow Piercer.  It's Cyberpunk with kings.

France still has some guillotines around. Cyberpunk heads separate just as swiftly