What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[garbon]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/18/trump-sendoff-ceremony-biden-inauguration-day

Trump is ending his term with the lowest approval rating of his presidency. Polling for CNN at the weekend had his rating down at 34%. His performance rating among Republicans has also dropped, down 14 points since October, standing at 80%.

I realized that it still hasn't hit me that he is nearly out.

[Oexmelin]

On the transfer and preservation of official documents:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/17/historians-having-to-tape-together-records-that-trump-tore-up?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other&fbclid=IwAR2AO98-pACJszixQeZU037XS6krDSD4uk90rFXvkfpnPHPB3x0pa5Ozi0E

[Sheilbh]

Good, real world consequences.

In a way I think real world consequenes are partly what's driving this.  I've read so many stories of Q people basically destroying relationships with families and friends it's like a cult - the personal cost has been so high, they can't afford for it to be wrong.

Which is why I've no doubt next week there'll be some rationalisation of why the Storm never came.

[Tonitrus]

One of the problems will almost certainly be, as it is with almost all cults/charlatans, is that in many cases one who has been fooled will NOT thank you for pointing it out (or even managing to prove it) to them.  If they ever recognize it all.

[Sheilbh]

One of the problems will almost certainly be, as it is with almost all cults/charlatans, is that in many cases one who has been fooled will NOT thank you for pointing it out (or even managing to prove it) to them.  If they ever recognize it all.

Yes. And instead, of course, some will recognise what's happened because they/Trump lost and now the President is someone involved in satanic cabals and paedophilia. That's probably going to be quite dangerous.

[crazy canuck]

One of the problems will almost certainly be, as it is with almost all cults/charlatans, is that in many cases one who has been fooled will NOT thank you for pointing it out (or even managing to prove it) to them.  If they ever recognize it all.

A good explanation why Antifa did it is widely accepted by Trumpists.

[Sophie Scholl]

Good, real world consequences.

In a way I think real world consequenes are partly what's driving this.  I've read so many stories of Q people basically destroying relationships with families and friends it's like a cult - the personal cost has been so high, they can't afford for it to be wrong.

Which is why I've no doubt next week there'll be some rationalisation of why the Storm never came.

My mom isn't, to my knowledge, into the Qanon shit yet, but she is still a devoted Trump cultist and it is most definitely destroying my family. My parents 40+ year marriage is in jeopardy as well as any relationship I might have with her going forward. She's willing to sacrifice it all in the name of Trump. Which is... devastating. She always leaned right, but as Fox News and talk radio kept pushing further right, she went along with them. It has been terrifying to watch. I tried to do something about it years ago and was attacked and called alarmist by my sister and dad for doing so. Now, I fear, it is too late and they are finally admitting maybe I had a point all those years ago. 

[mongers]

Good, real world consequences.

In a way I think real world consequenes are partly what's driving this.  I've read so many stories of Q people basically destroying relationships with families and friends it's like a cult - the personal cost has been so high, they can't afford for it to be wrong.

Which is why I've no doubt next week there'll be some rationalisation of why the Storm never came.

My mom isn't, to my knowledge, into the Qanon shit yet, but she is still a devoted Trump cultist and it is most definitely destroying my family. My parents 40+ year marriage is in jeopardy as well as any relationship I might have with her going forward. She's willing to sacrifice it all in the name of Trump. Which is... devastating. She always leaned right, but as Fox News and talk radio kept pushing further right, she went along with them. It has been terrifying to watch. I tried to do something about it years ago and was attacked and called alarmist by my sister and dad for doing so. Now, I fear, it is too late and they are finally admitting maybe I had a point all those years ago. 

Damn, B.A. that's sad.

I hope you find an answer/compromise.

[Sheilbh]

So the White House has dropped the 1776 Report on American history - all culture war all the time:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/The-Presidents-Advisory-1776-Commission-Final-Report.pdf



I have to be honest I did not expect one of Trump's last acts would be to launch an assault on Woodrow Wilson and Teddy Roosevelt, but here we are.

It's quite short - worth a read because there is nonsense on every page

[Barrister]

I have to be honest I did not expect one of Trump's last acts would be to launch an assault on Woodrow Wilson and Teddy Roosevelt, but here we are.

It's quite short - worth a read because there is nonsense on every page

One podcast I listen to is Jonah Goldberg's The Remnant.  Goldberg was formerly with National Review, is still obviously right-wing, now writes for a #NeverTrump-ish site of his own.

Anyways, one of his pet peeves is Wilson.  To the point that whenever his name comes up (which isn't exactly often, but more often than you'd think for a guy who left office 100 years ago) some ominous music from LOTR is played briefly.  He doesn't do that for anyone else in politics or history - just Wilson.

[crazy canuck]

Progressives as bad, or worse, than fascists and communists. 

[Admiral Yi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-GBI9J1O_k

Interview with 500 round guy.

He's won me over.

[The Larch]

I have to be honest I did not expect one of Trump's last acts would be to launch an assault on Woodrow Wilson and Teddy Roosevelt, but here we are.

It's quite short - worth a read because there is nonsense on every page

One podcast I listen to is Jonah Goldberg's The Remnant.  Goldberg was formerly with National Review, is still obviously right-wing, now writes for a #NeverTrump-ish site of his own.

Anyways, one of his pet peeves is Wilson.  To the point that whenever his name comes up (which isn't exactly often, but more often than you'd think for a guy who left office 100 years ago) some ominous music from LOTR is played briefly.  He doesn't do that for anyone else in politics or history - just Wilson.

The guy from the "The Cynical Historian" youtube channel also has it out for Wilson, he has a couple of videos specifically on how terrible he was. 

In case anyone is interested:

- Part 1, up to his presidency: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm0Gzz53YJo
- Part 2, from the moment he becomes president: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm0Gzz53YJo

[grumbler]

Turns out that fascism was just Hitler, and so is a dead issue.  The threat now comes from the Civil Rights Movement.

[The Larch]

So the White House has dropped the 1776 Report on American history - all culture war all the time:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/The-Presidents-Advisory-1776-Commission-Final-Report.pdf



I have to be honest I did not expect one of Trump's last acts would be to launch an assault on Woodrow Wilson and Teddy Roosevelt, but here we are.

It's quite short - worth a read because there is nonsense on every page

What a heaping pile of horseshit. I tihnk it's possible to take a page at random and find something highly objectionable on it. As if the problems of the US come from not enough worship of the founding fathers and the declaration of independence.

Hopefully it'll be soon put in the nearest trashbin in a matter of days and will have little or no impact whatsoever.