What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

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Valmy

Quote from: The Brain on December 11, 2019, 01:26:37 PM
The American style "Irish" meaning they weren't born in Ireland and even their parents weren't born in Ireland? That crap is the worst. Honey, you're not <nationality> just because your ancestors were <nationality>.

Yeah Europeans are ones to talk. You will have ethnic enclaves that last for centuries. Ours just fade away slowly.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

The Brain

Quote from: Valmy on December 11, 2019, 03:08:15 PM
Quote from: The Brain on December 11, 2019, 01:26:37 PM
The American style "Irish" meaning they weren't born in Ireland and even their parents weren't born in Ireland? That crap is the worst. Honey, you're not <nationality> just because your ancestors were <nationality>.

Yeah Europeans are ones to talk. You will have ethnic enclaves that last for centuries. Ours just fade away slowly.

They're called kingdoms. You should try it, bruh.
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Quote from: The Brain on December 11, 2019, 04:07:16 PM
They're called kingdoms. You should try it, bruh.

We've been giving it a shot last 3 years.   Pass.
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mongers

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on December 11, 2019, 04:15:11 PM
Quote from: The Brain on December 11, 2019, 04:07:16 PM
They're called kingdoms. You should try it, bruh.

We've been giving it a shot last 3 years.   Pass.

Stupidity is an ethnicity now?

:P
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dps

I'm an Irish-American;  Irish is my ethnicity, but American is my nationality.  Irish is not my nationality.

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Well Erin go Bragh to you mate. :cheers:

Though an American's ethnicity, whether that is defined by blood or culture, is pretty diluted.
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It is being used as a tool to attack BDS efforts and free speech without having to directly combat it.  Another important thing to consider, other than just Jewish individuals, is how it could be harnessed to attack Muslims.  There have already been upheld travel bans against countries and now you can, in theory, put such a ban on the "nationality" of Islam if the practice spreads.  It is a very slippery slope and I thoroughly believe no good will come of this.
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Valmy

Quote from: Eddie Teach on December 11, 2019, 06:00:55 PM
Well Erin go Bragh to you mate. :cheers:

Though an American's ethnicity, whether that is defined by blood or culture, is pretty diluted.

Speak for yourself. I am an Anglo-American and I can still speak something resembling the mother-tongue.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

Quote from: Benedict Arnold on December 11, 2019, 06:33:37 PM
Another important thing to consider, other than just Jewish individuals, is how it could be harnessed to attack Muslims.  There have already been upheld travel bans against countries and now you can, in theory, put such a ban on the "nationality" of Islam if the practice spreads.  It is a very slippery slope and I thoroughly believe no good will come of this.

How do you figure? I mean Islam cannot even be confused with an ethnicity much less a nationality.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Sophie Scholl

See:  Judaism as per the discussion of the last few pages.
"Everything that brought you here -- all the things that made you a prisoner of past sins -- they are gone. Forever and for good. So let the past go... and live."

"Somebody, after all, had to make a start. What we wrote and said is also believed by many others. They just don't dare express themselves as we did."

Valmy

Quote from: Benedict Arnold on December 11, 2019, 06:43:53 PM
See:  Judaism as per the discussion of the last few pages.

Yes using Judaism as some kind of ethnic designation in order to get them protected under federal law. But how would that work for Islam? Would atheists who were born Muslims then be "Islam" in national origin?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

grumbler

Quote from: Valmy on December 11, 2019, 06:41:48 PM
Quote from: Benedict Arnold on December 11, 2019, 06:33:37 PM
Another important thing to consider, other than just Jewish individuals, is how it could be harnessed to attack Muslims.  There have already been upheld travel bans against countries and now you can, in theory, put such a ban on the "nationality" of Islam if the practice spreads.  It is a very slippery slope and I thoroughly believe no good will come of this.

How do you figure? I mean Islam cannot even be confused with an ethnicity much less a nationality.

By distinguishing between Islam as a religion and Judaism as a nationality, Trump can discriminate against Muslims without fear of collateral damage.
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Valmy

Ah ok. I misunderstood. I thought that BA was saying Islam would get a similar distinction.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

viper37

Quote from: dps on December 11, 2019, 05:56:01 PM
I'm an Irish-American;  Irish is my ethnicity, but American is my nationality.  Irish is not my nationality.
how racist.  To pretend you're not identical to the majority... Valmy and others will be profundly disturbed by such a revelation of ethnic nationalism :P
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