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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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frunk

Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 09, 2019, 07:57:08 PM
Trump is thinking this through

Let me know when you find a situation where Trump does think something through.

dps

They say that there's a 1st time for everything, but I'm not holding my breath on that one.

Tamas

Obama will be blamed for ruinering the country, not Trump.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Tamas on July 10, 2019, 03:44:36 AM
Obama will be blamed for ruinering the country, not Trump.
Trump is not immune to laws of political gravity. If things go to shit on his watch, he'll get blamed.
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 10, 2019, 05:32:36 AM
Quote from: Tamas on July 10, 2019, 03:44:36 AM
Obama will be blamed for ruinering the country, not Trump.
Trump is not immune to laws of political gravity. If things go to shit on his watch, he'll get blamed.

By a critical mass, yep. But there will still be right-wing talking heads that you can point at and say "Obama gets the blame, how typical.  <_<"
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 10, 2019, 05:32:36 AM
Quote from: Tamas on July 10, 2019, 03:44:36 AM
Obama will be blamed for ruinering the country, not Trump.
Trump is not immune to laws of political gravity. If things go to shit on his watch, he'll get blamed.

The economy is booming right now.  Ordinarily a President with economy numbers this good would be way ahead in the polls, but even with Trump's unique toxicity he's still hanging in there.  If the economy turns south his support will drop like a stone.
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Habbaku

I wish I could believe that, Beeb, but I think Trump's basic support will endure in the low 40s/high 30s no matter what the economy looks like.
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dps

Quote from: Habbaku on July 10, 2019, 09:53:37 AM
I wish I could believe that, Beeb, but I think Trump's basic support will endure in the low 40s/high 30s no matter what the economy looks like.

That's true of every President.  There's 30-some percent of the electorate that's going to support a Republican President no matter what, and another 30-some percent that will support a Democratic President no matter what.   What matters politically is the 30 or so percent in between.

Malthus

Quote from: dps on July 10, 2019, 11:21:40 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on July 10, 2019, 09:53:37 AM
I wish I could believe that, Beeb, but I think Trump's basic support will endure in the low 40s/high 30s no matter what the economy looks like.

That's true of every President.  There's 30-some percent of the electorate that's going to support a Republican President no matter what, and another 30-some percent that will support a Democratic President no matter what.   What matters politically is the 30 or so percent in between.

The thing is that usually the President, whatever one thinks of his or her politics, is at least capable of the basic tasks of governance. This particular one is a bit of an exception in that regard. 
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Tamas

Quote from: Malthus on July 10, 2019, 11:39:23 AM
Quote from: dps on July 10, 2019, 11:21:40 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on July 10, 2019, 09:53:37 AM
I wish I could believe that, Beeb, but I think Trump's basic support will endure in the low 40s/high 30s no matter what the economy looks like.

That's true of every President.  There's 30-some percent of the electorate that's going to support a Republican President no matter what, and another 30-some percent that will support a Democratic President no matter what.   What matters politically is the 30 or so percent in between.

The thing is that usually the President, whatever one thinks of his or her politics, is at least capable of the basic tasks of governance. This particular one is a bit of an exception in that regard.

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Solmyr

Quote from: dps on July 10, 2019, 11:21:40 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on July 10, 2019, 09:53:37 AM
I wish I could believe that, Beeb, but I think Trump's basic support will endure in the low 40s/high 30s no matter what the economy looks like.

That's true of every President.  There's 30-some percent of the electorate that's going to support a Republican President no matter what, and another 30-some percent that will support a Democratic President no matter what.   What matters politically is the 30 or so percent in between.

Of course, with the US electoral college system, 30-some percent support is all you need to get elected.

Valmy

Yes. It is mathematically likely that at some point in our history a Candidate will win 60+% of the vote and lose.

But I doubt that day will be 2020. The EC is too close right now for that.
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Quote from: Solmyr on July 10, 2019, 01:21:02 PM
Quote from: dps on July 10, 2019, 11:21:40 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on July 10, 2019, 09:53:37 AM
I wish I could believe that, Beeb, but I think Trump's basic support will endure in the low 40s/high 30s no matter what the economy looks like.

That's true of every President.  There's 30-some percent of the electorate that's going to support a Republican President no matter what, and another 30-some percent that will support a Democratic President no matter what.   What matters politically is the 30 or so percent in between.

Of course, with the US electoral college system, 30-some percent support is all you need to get elected.

Trump had 46% and eeked out a win by just a few ten thousand votes in key states. That's how much he needs to win. If he just gets 45% he loses.
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Oexmelin

Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 10, 2019, 06:40:52 PM
Trump had 46% and eeked out a win by just a few ten thousand votes in key states. That's how much he needs to win. If he just gets 45% he loses.

Hence the conflict within the Democrats: whether one should campaign narrowly to get those tens of thousands of votes, or broadly to motivate the troops.
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Quote from: Oexmelin on July 10, 2019, 06:53:58 PM
Hence the conflict within the Democrats: whether one should campaign narrowly to get those tens of thousands of votes, or broadly to motivate the troops.

How did you come up with the broad vs. narrow thing?