What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[mongers]

It might be nothing, but there are two growing crisis at the moment.  The situation in the Gulf and the protests in Hong Kong.  If the CIA got wind of Chinese orders to crush the Hong Kong protesters that would be a reason to call everyone back.

Could well be, though I think Trump would not be bothered by the likely Xi crackdown, he probably has a low opinion of all pro-democracy demonstrators.

[DGuller]

It might be nothing, but there are two growing crisis at the moment.  The situation in the Gulf and the protests in Hong Kong.  If the CIA got wind of Chinese orders to crush the Hong Kong protesters that would be a reason to call everyone back.

Could well be, though I think Trump would not be bothered by the likely Xi crackdown, he probably has a low opinion of all pro-democracy demonstrators.

He may not be bothered, but he may be curious.

[Razgovory]

It might be nothing, but there are two growing crisis at the moment.  The situation in the Gulf and the protests in Hong Kong.  If the CIA got wind of Chinese orders to crush the Hong Kong protesters that would be a reason to call everyone back.

Could well be, though I think Trump would not be bothered by the likely Xi crackdown, he probably has a low opinion of all pro-democracy demonstrators.

Orders to suppress a protest can get out of hand very quickly.  That was how the Soviet Union fell.

[DGuller]

Orders to suppress a protest can get out of hand very quickly.  That was how the Soviet Union fell.

It's one of those things that are unfortunately all-or-nothing, and Gorbachev was definitely no butcher (which is one of the many reasons Russians despise him).  You either commit to suppression or you don't do it. 

Unfortunately commitment to suppression usually works, I don't think there is much danger of Kim being overthrown.  Another unfortunate thing is that now is as good a a time as any for someone who would normally be hesitant for fear of geopolitical consequences to "do it right".

[jimmy olsen]

Orders to suppress a protest can get out of hand very quickly.  That was how the Soviet Union fell.

It's one of those things that are unfortunately all-or-nothing, and Gorbachev was definitely no butcher (which is one of the many reasons Russians despise him).  You either commit to suppression or you don't do it. 

Unfortunately commitment to suppression usually works, I don't think there is much danger of Kim being overthrown.  Another unfortunate thing is that now is as good a a time as any for someone who would normally be hesitant for fear of geopolitical consequences to "do it right".

Wrong dictator

[Eddie Teach]

He was making a general point.

[DGuller]

Orders to suppress a protest can get out of hand very quickly.  That was how the Soviet Union fell.

It's one of those things that are unfortunately all-or-nothing, and Gorbachev was definitely no butcher (which is one of the many reasons Russians despise him).  You either commit to suppression or you don't do it. 

Unfortunately commitment to suppression usually works, I don't think there is much danger of Kim being overthrown.  Another unfortunate thing is that now is as good a a time as any for someone who would normally be hesitant for fear of geopolitical consequences to "do it right".

Wrong dictator

Flawless perception of context.

[Admiral Yi]

I didn't get it either.

[The Brain]

It's not fucking Kardashian, Yi.

[Admiral Yi]

Yeah, like, whatever man.

[garbon]

Orders to suppress a protest can get out of hand very quickly.  That was how the Soviet Union fell.

It's one of those things that are unfortunately all-or-nothing, and Gorbachev was definitely no butcher (which is one of the many reasons Russians despise him).  You either commit to suppression or you don't do it. 

Unfortunately commitment to suppression usually works, I don't think there is much danger of Kim being overthrown.  Another unfortunate thing is that now is as good a a time as any for someone who would normally be hesitant for fear of geopolitical consequences to "do it right".

Wrong dictator

Flawless perception of context.

Well it is Tim.

[garbon]

So the citizenship question will not feature on the census.

[Tamas]

So the citizenship question will not feature on the census.

I appreciate the concern about the question but not census-ing whether the replying person is a citizen is just silly.


I am increasingly wondering whether aspects of the politics legislature of the US (and the UK in fact) are showing signs that they'll remain flexible in a changing world and will adopt to the new global world better, or instead they show sign of being increasingly out of touch with the necessities and problems of the modern world.

[garbon]

So the citizenship question will not feature on the census.

I appreciate the concern about the question but not census-ing whether the replying person is a citizen is just silly.

Odd, given that the Supreme Court were the ones who said the Trump administration had not demonstrated sufficient need to add the question.

[garbon]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/07/citizenship-questions-are-not-historically-normal/593014/

Never in the 230-year history of the census has the complete-count questionnaire (or its equivalent) asked for the citizenship status of everyone in the country, as Ross proposed. When citizenship was asked at all, it was directed to small segments of the population, such as foreign-born men 21 or older (1890 to 1910) or foreign-born people (1930 to 1950), mainly to figure out how well they were assimilating into the United States. After the 1950 census, questions about citizenship or naturalization were confined to sample surveys that went to only a small percentage of households.