What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[garbon]

I think I've giving up caring what Trump supporters think. It is clear there are either incredibly self-serving or unreachable by any sense of rational dialogue.

There was a time when you cared?

Of course, you should always try to build a dialogue where possible.

[Valmy]

I think I've giving up caring what Trump supporters think. It is clear there are either incredibly self-serving or unreachable by any sense of rational dialogue.

There was a time when you cared?

At one point I was big on trying to have conversations with them out there on the internet. But it quickly became pretty obvious I would either be ignored if I said something that did not fit their context or would be put into some pre-selected box of theirs if I did. This is not unique to Trump supporters but man I have rarely seen it worse.

So I just have to hope that at some point they get disillusioned. It happens to anybody who is a big fan of a politician in this country eventually I think.

[DGuller]

Jim Jones supporters never got disillusioned.

[crazy canuck]

Jim Jones supporters never got disillusioned.

Well, there were those few who decided not to drink the cool aid after all.  So there is still some glimmer of hope for the GOP.

[Barrister]

cool aid

[crazy canuck]

cool aid

Sorry, Kool aid.

Thanks for commenting on the most important part of what is happening 

[dps]

I think I've giving up caring what Trump supporters think. It is clear there are either incredibly self-serving or unreachable by any sense of rational dialogue.

If that statement is in response to Eddie Teach's post about the Iranian general's tweets, he wasn't talking about Trump supporters--he was talking about normal Americans.

On your point, though, I generally agree.  I don't understand why people support President Trump.  I understand why people might support some of the policies he's identified with (I still say he doesn't really have policies, just whims), but there are public figures who support those positions without Trump's moral, ethical, and intellectual bankruptcy, so I don't see why people support him instead of someone else who advocates similar positions.

I think a lot of Trump's support during the 2018 election was more-or-less a matter of people chosing to make a protest vote, and I can kind of understand it on that level, but it doesn't explain why people continue to support the man.

[derspiess]

At one point I was big on trying to have conversations with them out there on the internet.

Probably not the best way to do it, unless you really know the person.

[derspiess]

I think a lot of Trump's support during the 2018 election was more-or-less a matter of people chosing to make a protest vote, and I can kind of understand it on that level, but it doesn't explain why people continue to support the man.

From conversations I've had or overheard recently (as in post-Helsinki), it sounds like it's mainly the tribes thing.  Trump supporters are circling the wagons at this point-- press is out to get Trump, economy is doing well so everyone should shut up about him, etc.  They don't dwell on it, though.  They'd rather talk about other things.

[Admiral Yi]

Gigantic 4% quarter growth number announced.  Trade deficit falls by 50 billion.  Trumpistas exult, sane people lament.

Half that trade number was due to massive soybean purchases by China ahead of impending tariffs.

NPR

[Legbiter]

Gigantic 4% quarter growth number announced.  Trade deficit falls by 50 billion.  Trumpistas exult, sane people lament.

Half that trade number was due to massive soybean purchases by China ahead of impending tariffs.

NPR

Good job Yanks.

Boy, all those hobos murdered and processed into pemmican by the pundits. Yet, here is the world, pretty much the same as last week.

[Valmy]

Yeah the economy is going great. Hopefully we can get this idiot out of office before his shitty policies fuck that up.

[crazy canuck]

Yet, here is the world, pretty much the same as last week.

Agreed.  Given all the things he has done to screw up the world prior to last week, I would say that this week is pretty much like last week.

[The Minsky Moment]

Gigantic 4% quarter growth number announced. 

Trump actually said its "historic"
4% is spiffy but back in the ancient days of 2014 we had two straight quarters higher than that, including one Q over 5 percent.

Trade deficit falls by 50 billion.

The trade deficit is down over the last 3 months, but the overall context is that the trade deficit shot way up in 2017, presumably in response to loose fiscal and tightish monetary policy.  So if the reduction holds, it just brings the trade deficit back to around where it was when Trump took over.

[Valmy]

Trump actually said its "historic"
4% is spiffy but back in the ancient days of 2014 we had two straight quarters higher than that, including one Q over 5 percent.

But that was back when the true unemployment was really high.