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The Minsky Moment

#16860
January 31, 2018, 03:54:01 PM
I don't know about that - he had the full-bore Mussolini chin jut going on.
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dps

#16862
January 31, 2018, 05:02:34 PM
Quote from: Valmy on January 31, 2018, 01:39:12 PM
I heard some rumor some of the resistance will be having some sort of alternative speech, which sounds stupid. But then this is a stupid age.

That's been done for at years;  it's nothing new.  It is stupid, though.

jimmy olsen

#16863
January 31, 2018, 10:49:25 PM
Quote from: Valmy on January 31, 2018, 01:39:12 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 31, 2018, 01:29:27 PM
So are you guys discussing the State of the Union somewhere I don't have access to?

Nope. Feel free to discuss it here.

I am sure he will say some misguided notions and outright lies and then the Democrats will brilliantly point out where he was wrong and bad and should feel bad. The nation will rally to the Democrats with thunderous cheers.

I heard some rumor some of the resistance will be having some sort of alternative speech, which sounds stupid. But then this is a stupid age.

There has been a response to the state of the union since 1966, so I guess your entire life has been a stupid age.
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Eddie Teach

#16864
January 31, 2018, 11:04:01 PM
A response is not an alternative speech.
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Sophie Scholl

#16865
February 01, 2018, 02:23:25 AM
So Trey Gowdy is stepping down to return to the judiciary.  I really, really hope he doesn't end up a Supreme Court Justice. :yuk:
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mongers

#16866
February 01, 2018, 07:16:05 AM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on January 31, 2018, 03:54:01 PM
I don't know about that - he had the full-bore Mussolini chin jut going on.

Unfortunately I caught a few minutes of it on yesterday's news, you're spot on with that.
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mongers

#16867
February 01, 2018, 07:22:35 AM
And in the no surprise at all section:

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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump    13m (ago)

Thank you for all of the nice compliments and reviews on the State of the Union speech. 45.6 million people watched, the highest number in history. @FoxNews beat every other Network, for the first time ever, with 11.7 million people tuning in. Delivered from the heart!



It's all about the ratings folks.
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Tamas

#16868
February 01, 2018, 08:23:47 AM
I must say the US is lucky with Trump: basically he is -unintentionally I guess- trying to do the same fatal eroding of checks and balances like it has been done in Russia, Turkey, Hungary, and nowadays Poland. And it seems the Republican Party is quite ok with assisting in this. The lucky part is, that Trump is a joke and very incapable in everything but doing a Mussolini impersonation. Somebody more sinister and smart could cause a lot of long term damage with such traitors as the GOP behind him.

frunk

#16869
February 01, 2018, 08:27:20 AM
Quote from: Tamas on February 01, 2018, 08:23:47 AM
I must say the US is lucky with Trump: basically he is -unintentionally I guess- trying to do the same fatal eroding of checks and balances like it has been done in Russia, Turkey, Hungary, and nowadays Poland. And it seems the Republican Party is quite ok with assisting in this. The lucky part is, that Trump is a joke and very incapable in everything but doing a Mussolini impersonation. Somebody more sinister and smart could cause a lot of long term damage with such traitors as the GOP behind him.

We're only a year in.

derspiess

#16870
February 01, 2018, 08:29:37 AM
How is he unintentionally trying to do something?
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DGuller

#16871
February 01, 2018, 08:41:14 AM
Quote from: Tamas on February 01, 2018, 08:23:47 AM
I must say the US is lucky with Trump: basically he is -unintentionally I guess- trying to do the same fatal eroding of checks and balances like it has been done in Russia, Turkey, Hungary, and nowadays Poland. And it seems the Republican Party is quite ok with assisting in this. The lucky part is, that Trump is a joke and very incapable in everything but doing a Mussolini impersonation. Somebody more sinister and smart could cause a lot of long term damage with such traitors as the GOP behind him.
Agreed.  It's alarming that he's as successful as he is at that, obviously no democracy is safe when there is a sizable anti-democratic element among citizenry, but it's far more alarming to think how successful a sleek political operator would be.  FBI would probably be completely and silently co-opted by now.

Valmy

#16872
February 01, 2018, 10:09:48 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on January 31, 2018, 10:49:25 PM
There has been a response to the state of the union since 1966, so I guess your entire life has been a stupid age.

Was there a time when people did not respond to the State of the Union Address? :unsure:

Anyway why would I think a response is stupid? I was talking about setting up your alternative speech.
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frunk

#16873
February 01, 2018, 10:13:46 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 01, 2018, 08:29:37 AM
How is he unintentionally trying to do something?

It's pretty clear that Trump doesn't understand how government works, but he still expects it to conform to how he thinks it works.  Someone who actually understood it could take it apart intentionally more effectively.

Valmy

#16874
February 01, 2018, 10:16:30 AM
Quote from: derspiess on February 01, 2018, 08:29:37 AM
How is he unintentionally trying to do something?

I guess Tamas is saying that he is trying to do the things those other guys did to satisfy his ego or something, not necessarily to actually create a dictatorship.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."
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