What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[Tamas]

Tampax, you sound suspiciously like someone who likes liberal democracy and rule of law. Just sayin'.

Okay, you need to stop being an idiot. You've been getting a free pass for too long.

Gratuitous and frankly out of place.

I don't think so. He's been skirting around with some racist and sexist notions as of late. And yes, he's lovable and funny so doesn't matter as much as we rarely need to take his points seriously but enough is enough.

This was very badly timed by you though, as he happens to be right. The police's monopoly on violence is the cornerstone of the rule of law, the more free a society is, the more true this is.

[Eddie Teach]

So call him out when he's being racist or sexist, not when he's agreeing with Tamas that mob violence is bad.

[garbon]

Tampax, you sound suspiciously like someone who likes liberal democracy and rule of law. Just sayin'.

Okay, you need to stop being an idiot. You've been getting a free pass for too long.

Gratuitous and frankly out of place.

I don't think so. He's been skirting around with some racist and sexist notions as of late. And yes, he's lovable and funny so doesn't matter as much as we rarely need to take his points seriously but enough is enough.

This was very badly timed by you though, as he happens to be right. The police's monopoly on violence is the cornerstone of the rule of law, the more free a society is, the more true this is.

I don't care. His dickishness has pissed me off.

Particularly given that I was not arguing for people to be violent nor that I was pleased people were getting violent.

[Jacob]

Well you'd think that, but you'd be wrong. Jacob has established that 1930s Germany is a model to follow when it comes to political culture.

I did not, no.

[Tamas]

Well you'd think that, but you'd be wrong. Jacob has established that 1930s Germany is a model to follow when it comes to political culture.

I did not, no.

I know you didn't, but as much as it was fun seeing that nazi scumbag shit his pants when he had to run from his own press conference, the "punch a nazi" slogan advocated by you earlier, leads exactly to the Germany of the 1920s and 30s.

[Oexmelin]

Where were police forces in Germany, in the 1920s ?

[Jacob]

Gratuitous and frankly out of place.

A perfect description of the Brain's posts, yes.

[Jacob]

I don't think so. He's been skirting around with some racist and sexist notions as of late. And yes, he's lovable and funny so doesn't matter as much as we rarely need to take his points seriously but enough is enough.

It's not that recent.

[Jacob]

I know you didn't, but as much as it was fun seeing that nazi scumbag shit his pants when he had to run from his own press conference, the "punch a nazi" slogan advocated by you earlier, leads exactly to the Germany of the 1920s and 30s.

I disagree.

It's grimly amusing to see you descend into liberal handwringing and self-blame on this subject when on most other ones you ridicule it. Hitler's ascent to power can not credibly be laid at the feet of people fighting against the SA.

[Jacob]

Virginia governor Terry McAuliffe revealed on Monday that the far right activists had hidden caches of weapons around the city. "They had battering rams and we had picked up different weapons that they had stashed around the city," McAuliffe told civil rights campaigner DeRay Mckesson on his podcast Pod Save the People.

Asked about the police response, which has been criticised as too passive, the governor said: "They were on very heightened alert because of the amount of weapons that we had been told [were coming in]. These folks came armed and our biggest concern was that shots would be fired and we would have a melee."

He added: "If you see people yesterday walking down the street, DeRay, with semi-automatic rifles strapped on their body, I mean they had better armour than my state police and national guard had."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/14/donald-trump-charlottesville-response-washington

[Tamas]

I know you didn't, but as much as it was fun seeing that nazi scumbag shit his pants when he had to run from his own press conference, the "punch a nazi" slogan advocated by you earlier, leads exactly to the Germany of the 1920s and 30s.

I disagree.

It's grimly amusing to see you descend into liberal handwringing and self-blame on this subject when on most other ones you ridicule it. Hitler's ascent to power can not credibly be laid at the feet of people fighting against the SA.

Two things. First of all, yes, chaos on the streets helped Hitler come to power.

Secondly, the SA was street fighting the far left groups, not the liberals. Just as the American nazis would end up fighting the far left if these kind of things are to continue and escalate, and it would be one of the two that rises to power once people have enough of the ensuing chaos.

[The Minsky Moment]

I know you didn't, but as much as it was fun seeing that nazi scumbag shit his pants when he had to run from his own press conference, the "punch a nazi" slogan advocated by you earlier, leads exactly to the Germany of the 1920s and 30s.

Personally I'll take Weimar over what came after.  Is that really a hard choice?

[Tamas]

I know you didn't, but as much as it was fun seeing that nazi scumbag shit his pants when he had to run from his own press conference, the "punch a nazi" slogan advocated by you earlier, leads exactly to the Germany of the 1920s and 30s.

Personally I'll take Weimar over what came after.  Is that really a hard choice?

You know perfectly well what I meant.

Democracies are not invulnerable, and they can be set up and ran in a bad way. Keeping them stable and serving individual freedom requires care from the majority.

[The Minsky Moment]

Watching Republicans go on TV last night to shake their heads over Trump, it's like watching Wile E Coyote pumping his legs furiously after going over the cliff, not realizing there is nothing below.  Again and again, I heard the talking point - condemning the President for his statements, expressing exasperation over his lack of discipline, but expressing support for his "policy agenda"

Problem is, it's Trump.  He has no policy agenda.  The craziness isn't a distraction from the main event.  It is the main event. These GOP guys have either (1) gotten so disoriented trying to defend Trump's mishegas they can no longer see the man for what it is, or (2) can't stop intoning the talking points intended to nudge Trump back onto track even though they realize it will never happen.

[garbon]

I don't think so. He's been skirting around with some racist and sexist notions as of late. And yes, he's lovable and funny so doesn't matter as much as we rarely need to take his points seriously but enough is enough.

It's not that recent.

Again, I'll admit that I've let most slide in the past with the not considering him a serious poster.