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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39461869

(With video)

QuoteTrump leaves room before signing orders

31 March 2017 Last updated at 22:01 BST

President Donald Trump left the Oval Office on Friday without signing the executive orders that he was there to announce.

"Jobs and wealth have been stripped from our country," he said before exiting.

He continued walking as a reporter shouted questions about whether Mr Trump was directing his administration to grant immunity to fired adviser Michael Flynn.

Amid journalists' confusion, Vice-President Mike Pence picked up the orders from the table, and they were signed in another room.

The video just makes it look weird/bizarre.
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FunkMonk

Goddamn I love our fat dumb President. Flees like a coward every time :lol:
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garbon

Quote from: celedhring on March 31, 2017, 06:39:57 PM
Schrodinger's Obama, who was at the same time woefully inept and deviously crafty.

Well they already believe it on immigrants. Stealing all the jobs while simultaneously eating up all the welfare.
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Quote from: FunkMonk on April 01, 2017, 06:14:55 AM
Goddamn I love our fat dumb President. Flees like a coward every time :lol:

It's like we're in a constant loop stuck in 7th grade. lol:

grumbler

Quote from: viper37 on April 01, 2017, 12:22:22 AM
But you worry too much.  Grumbler assured me multiple times this was all exagerated and nothing bad, really permanent would happen under this administration.  You can go back to sleep now :)
It is amusing to watch your desire to score infantile "points" overwhelm your tiny inclination towards intellectual honesty.  Your strawman here costs you little credibility, for you had, in truth, little credibility to lose. It did, however, cost you all the credibility you had.

I'm especially amused that you made this lie into "multiple times" so that, even if you tried to weasel out of your lie with a single example, it would still be a lie because you would need multiple examples.  Dishonest people shouldn't love rhetorical flourishes as much as you and Trump do.
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CountDeMoney

Der Furor slept in late.

QuoteDonald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 2h
2 hours ago

It is the same Fake News Media that said there is "no path to victory for Trump" that is now pushing the phony Russia story. A total scam!

QuoteDonald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 2h
2 hours ago

When will Sleepy Eyes Chuck Todd and @NBCNews start talking about the Obama SURVEILLANCE SCANDAL and stop with the Fake Trump/Russia story?


Sleepy Eyes Chuck Todd  :lol: Got a feeling we're going to see that one a lot more in the future.

viper37

Quote from: grumbler on April 01, 2017, 09:21:56 AM
I'm especially amused that you made this lie into "multiple times" so that, even if you tried to weasel out of your lie with a single example, it would still be a lie because you would need multiple examples.  Dishonest people shouldn't love rhetorical flourishes as much as you and Trump do.
I'm sory, where is the lie here? :)
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viper37

Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 01, 2017, 02:06:06 AM
Quote from: viper37 on April 01, 2017, 12:23:38 AM
he (Trump) likely believes he has done nothing wrong or illegal.

Then suggesting an immunity request is nonsensical.
I figured it's a way of saying "go ahead, you have nothing on me".
But nonsensical could work too.  It's Donald Trump, after all.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

grumbler

Quote from: viper37 on April 01, 2017, 11:51:03 AM
Quote from: grumbler on April 01, 2017, 09:21:56 AM
I'm especially amused that you made this lie into "multiple times" so that, even if you tried to weasel out of your lie with a single example, it would still be a lie because you would need multiple examples.  Dishonest people shouldn't love rhetorical flourishes as much as you and Trump do.
I'm sory, where is the lie here? :)

There is no lie there.  What I said is all true.  :)
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CountDeMoney

Meanwhile, at the villain's hideout---

QuoteTracking how many key positions Trump has filled so far

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-administration-appointee-tracker/database/?tid=graphics-story

Of 553 key positions requiring Senate confirmation...
488 Awaiting nomination 44 Awaiting confirmation 21 Confirmed

If you want to destroy the federal government, why even bother with things like policy--just like anything else organic, simply stop feeding and watering it.  It'll die on its own.

jimmy olsen

Won't change anything, but a nice story none the less.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/04/01/read_the_wallace_global_fund_s_scathing_letter_firing_trump_s_lawyers.html
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With Stunning Moral Clarity, Wallace Global Fund Fires Firm That Endorsed Donald Trump's Kleptocracy

By Dahlia Lithwick


Every once in a while, amid the legal and ethical sham of the Trump presidency, the grown-ups do show up to assert themselves. And each time they do, the world briefly makes sense again. This week, the grown-up is H. Scott Wallace, co-chair of the Wallace Global Fund, which promotes sustainable investments and until very recently, received legal counsel from the same firm that helped Donald Trump "separate" from his business interests before assuming the presidency. In a letter explaining his decision to fire that law firm, Morgan Lewis & Bockius, Wallace leaves no doubt that the "the ethical carnage" sanctioned by the firm's lawyers is not tolerable, or normal, or even minimally defensible.


The letter—addressed to the firm's chair Jami McKeon and first reported by Politico—expressly calls out the firm's representation of Donald Trump and the legal advice given by Morgan Lewis partner Sherri Dillon. Dillon is the lawyer who stood next to piles of presumably empty manila folders and the president at a Jan. 11 press conference to defend Trump's decision not to place his business in a blind trust, but instead to set up a trust managed by his sons, of which he still maintains full ownership, allowing him to profit from his presidency.

Wallace, who appeals to McKeon as "a fellow Villanova Law grad," does not mince his words:

We believe that the legal advice given to him by your partner is not just simplistic and ill-founded, but that it empowers and even encourages impeachable offenses and undetectable financial conflicts of interest by America's highest official, and thus is an unprecedented invitation to corruption and assault on our democracy.

It goes on to ask that the firm "think about larger principles than simple zealous representation of a client."

The letter then catalogs in detail the myriad ways in which Trump's continuing conflicts of interest and self-dealing violate the Constitution's Emoluments Clause and characterizes Dillon's solution as "an illusion of protection against the President using his office for personal gain." It goes on to detail corruption-related developments since that January press conference, ranging from the granting of 38 trademarks to Trump by China, his D.C. hotels courting foreign business away from other venues, and the doubling of initiation fees at Mar-a-Lago.

The Wallace Fund describes itself as a "funder and supporter of social movements." In his letter, Wallace says that the fund's "values of open and accountable democratic governance" have been violated by the "sham" "figleaf" arrangement Morgan Lewis has devised and endorsed. As Wallace concludes, "it is painfully obvious that Trump is using his office for financial gain. And Morgan Lewis is enabling and legitimizing this."

Sometimes just calling corruption "corruption" is enough to refocus the mind. This simple letter reminds us how dramatically our conception of what is normal has been redefined in recent months.
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jimmy olsen

I hope they win.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/03/31/american-citizen-trapped-in-ice-jail.html
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American Citizen Trapped in ICE Jail

BETSY WOODRUFF

03.31.17 2:05 PM ET
A U.S. citizen who ICE detained for weeks is suing the agency, alleging it violated his Constitutional rights.

The lawsuit holds that Rony Chavez Aguilar was held in ICE custody for nearly three weeks without being able to see a judge, and without knowing why he was being detained.


Those officers initially arrested Aguilar on drug charges, according to Roth. He pleaded guilty, and spent about two weeks in county jail for the offense. After the two weeks were up, he would have been free to go. But ICE thought he was undocumented, and wanted to deport him.

The officers kept him in the county jail so agents with ICE's Chicago field office could take him into custody. According to the complaint, they picked him up on or around March 7 and moved him to the Boone County Jail in Burlington, Kentucky, where they contract out space to detain people facing deportation.

At that point, Aguilar told them he was a U.S. citizen. They didn't believe him.

"He said, 'Hey, I'm a citizen!'" said Charles Roth, who is representing Aguilar. "And basically they said, 'Tell it to the judge.'"

Then they didn't let him see one.


Roth, who is also the litigation director for the National Immigrant Justice Center, said many other immigrants find themselves in the same situation as Aguilar—detained for days or weeks without knowing what charges they face and without getting to defend themselves before a judge—and that he hopes a judge will let those people join Aguilar in a class action suit.

If Aguilar is successful, it could present a significant challenge for Trump's mass deportation efforts. ICE doesn't comment on ongoing litigation.

The suit comes at a time when President Donald Trump and Homeland Security Sec. John Kelly are moving rapidly to expand immigrant detention and deport more people. And the suit highlights one of the biggest challenges facing America's immigration system: the massive backlog in immigration court that makes some immigrants wait months before they can see a judge.

It also highlights another ongoing challenge for ICE: accidentally arresting U.S. citizens. Syracuse University's Transactional Records Clearinghouse found that from 2008 to 2012, the agency asked local jails to detain 834 U.S. citizens so they could move to deport them. As Trump's efforts to speed up deportations continue, it's likely more American citizens like Aguilar will be caught in the dragnet.

According to the complaint, Aguilar was born in Guatemala and came to the United States legally in 1991. His mother became a naturalized U.S. citizen when he was 14, according to the complaint, and he became a citizen on Feb. 27, 2001. In January, ICE asked Kentucky police officers who had arrested Aguilar to hold him in a jail there longer than they otherwise would have so the agency could pick him up.

When the complaint was filed, ICE hadn't yet filed what's called a "Notice to Appear" in immigration court against Aguilar. That notice would be the document officially charging him, and would require him to go to court.

"ICE Chicago did not obtain a judicial warrant to arrest Plaintiff; has not provided a sworn, particularized statement of probable cause; has not promptly brought him before a detached and neutral judicial officer for a probable cause hearing; or has not brought him before a judge to understand the charges against him and receive important advisals regarding his due process rights, amongst other procedural protections," the complaint says.

Roth said Aguilar was released from detention shortly after they filed the suit on March 27.

Roth said Aguilar's situation is fairly common, and he hopes a federal judge will declare that it's illegal for ICE to detain immigrants for more than 48 hours without letting them see a judge.

Aguilar's case isn't the only one moving through federal courts that could significantly upend the way immigrant detention works. A federal judge in Colorado recently ruled that upwards of 60,000 immigrants held in a facility managed by a for-profit prison company could launch a class action lawsuit against that company. The plaintiffs in the suit, Menocal v. GEO, allege that the company violated a federal anti-slavery statute by forcing them to do manual labor for low wages or no wages at all, under threat of solitary confinement.

As Trump detains more immigrants, lawsuits like this one will likely become more common. And as was the case with the travel ban, the federal judiciary could be the biggest hurdle for Trump's plans.
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I was going through the staff finacial reports, and Sean Spinchter gets a 9% rate on his Chase Card. Fucker gets a slightly lower rate than me.  :mad:

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